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take out is right above the nasty. put in at the bridge about 6 miles up stream. (the bridge goes over the river). It is flowing great right now. did it on saturday. solid 3-4 with a couple 5's. non stop action, never a dull moment. some blind stuff and about six porteges around wood. one mini gorge that is pretty wild. have fun, adios, atom...
 

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Thanks and

we must have seen your vehicle at the take out on Saturday. We started up the canyon but we turned around before the bridge. There will be three of us tomorrow. On Saturday we looked around a lot, then went to the Santa Cruz and ran that. What do you estimate the flow in the Guadalupe on Sat? maybe 200?

Our group is from Albuquerque...

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What was the flow on the Rio Santa Cruz

What was the flow on the Rio Santa Cruz like? Was it a good level to run at? Enough water to run?

Thanks for the beta,

PJ
 

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santa cruz

it is running, but at the low flow bone zone bash your boat flow, give it a week or so and it will be better. tons o snow waiting above for sun shine. gonna run big i think. great training creek for aspiring creekers. have fun, adios, atom.
ps. do not go do the guadalupe unless you are a solid class 4 boater, few eddies and if you miss one you could be in a world of hurt. we almost lost someone last weekend(solid class 5 boater) due to a wierd unseeable log jam. heads up boogie water. be safe, adios, atom///
 

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Santa cruz

The flow on Sat was 2 ft on the Santa Cruz...same thing very bony. One portage around wood which was very close to the put in. The info in the guidebook about the "island" area is no longer valid as the creek has changed. We ran into some guys who run it all the time and they gave us beta as we ran it. It is a short run and a flat water paddle across the lake for a mile or so to the take out. Can be difficult if really windy. The guys we met usually run it 2 or three times on an outing. It was great fun. They also advised that the best level was 2.2 feet or so on the guage. The guage is about a 5 minute walk or less from the put in at Cundiyo. It costs $5 to leave a vehilce at the take out which is a drag.. Some of the run is very brushy as the willows are growing tight on the creek. One place was line up straight and put the paddle parallel with the boat to squeeze through. I really enjoyed this run.

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6 miles of bust ass creeking

4 of us ran the 6 miles from Porter to Gilman on the Rio Guadalupe yesterday. Atom you were right about solid boating skills required. Lots of scouting and difficult portages around dangerous tree strainers. Not to mention the unrunnable huge falls in the canyon. Wow we all have minor injuries cuts and bruises and were exhausted and cold by the end but we had a successful run of it. All the scouting took us a very long time...ended up being almost an 8 hour ordeal for us. Do not run blind on this creek or you will certainly end up in a nasty strainer! This would be an outstanding creek run without all the wood in it. Some of the drops are super fun requiring solid skills to avoid trouble.

super caution on this run

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yup, heads up boating

we did the run in 4 hrs, had a good team and all took turns taking the lead. had about 6 portages around wood and the big falls portage(cool seal lauch after it on river left) only got out of our boats a few times to scout, we were able to see most stuff from the last eddies above drops. this run is non stop action. glad you guys had a safe time. should come up even more. adios, atom...
ps-steer class3,4- boaters away from this run, it has a nasty feel to it, a freight train with wood on the tracks.
 
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