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I went to lap barrel today with another kayaker, I have ran it once before and cleaned the whole run. Tonight different story. I ran life after death with no problem, but new it was bigger. Got to the first drop started my approach hit this wave not supper straight missed my brace, kinda hit a roll just in time to go over the drop, upside down. Got pulled out of ly boat and swam to the side above the second drop. My friend got my boat and talked me into a second run, once again set up great ran the drop missed a roll,came out ofy boat got beat up and crawled my way on top of a rock about 5 feet from second drop. Got back to my boat paddled Shoshone and called it a night.

We have plans to run Gore on Thursday, he says it is easier than barrel at 2200 ( which I believe it was tonight)
What do you'll think?
 

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From what I can tell your question is: Does swimming barrel springs makes you qualified to run gore?

I have no idea if you can run gore. Just remember before you put on that Gore is a lot longer and more remote (read: not next to a road). So a mistake in Gore could lead to a long day. That said most of the rapids are pool drop, you can scout/portage most of them, and its on par with barrel springs difficulty wise. It doesn't sound promising from what you told us, but I would never tell anyone not to run it if they felt good about it.

One last thing you should remember is that Gore will always be there. It has the longest season of any run in Colorado - if you don't get it this year you have plenty of chances to get it next year.
 

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Typical Colorado attitude? Do you mean humble, positive, and upbeat?

We'll take that attitude over Casper's angry, negative, shitty attitude any day!

Do you think your Osama signature is funny and clever? Douche is more appropriate.
 

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Typical Colorado attitude? Do you mean humble, positive, and upbeat?

We'll take that attitude over Casper's angry, negative, shitty attitude any day!

Do you think your Osama signature is funny and clever? Douche is more appropriate.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Mine agrees with Mike. Why even post up that you swam Barrel twice in one day and now you want opinions about running Gore.... get that roll bomb proof first.
 

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Barrel Springs was more like 6-700 cfs. The guauge reads 1290 at shoshone. Subtract about 600 for the power plant (usually subtract about 1200 but only one turbine is working).

If Barrel was at 2200 I would agree that Gore at 900 is easier.

Gore is longer and more committing but you can walk any rapid you want. If you are willing to take all day and scout the big rapids and walk what you are not comfortable with, then go for it. If you are thinking you are going to sneak in a late evening run in a couple hours, you may want to wait a little longer and get more comfortable.
 

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Typical Colorado attitude? Do you mean humble, positive, and upbeat?

We'll take that attitude over Casper's angry, negative, shitty attitude any day!

Do you think your Osama signature is funny and clever? Douche is more appropriate.
Osama is above your head. You wouldn't know the first thing about YLA

As far as humble, upbeat, and positive if you call swimming one rapid qualifies for a run like gore have at it. I call it like I see it. Typical Colorado attitude trying to run hard shit before the skills are there.....scooter, says you started in 2010 like I said you wouldn't have a clue And I'm pretty sure you never will.

Casper Osama out
 

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I'm sure no one in Wyoming or Montana ever hacks it up:)

OP- If you are asking for opinions, swimming twice in Barrel Springs at fish flows means that you are not a solid boater with a solid roll. You will survive Gore at this point, but if you want to paddle it well, spend some more time on your skills first.
 

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I'm sure no one in Wyoming or Montana ever hacks it up:)

OP- If you are asking for opinions, swimming twice in Barrel Springs at fish flows means that you are not a solid boater with a solid roll. You will survive Gore at this point, but if you want to paddle it well, spend some more time on your skills first.
We stomp it when they do step it up.nwe don't ask if swimming is a good prerequisite for the chronic... Even though knowing how to swim is good knowing how to kayak is the best solution...

Yep no hacks
 

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Mike, if I didn't know you where a good guy I would think you are a total tool on here. Stop with that Colorado attitude type shit, WY has a hand full of boaters and i've seen most of them get stomped. Colorado paddling is WAY better than Wyoming, and if you don't think so you need to get out more.

As for the swimmer on Barrel, I agree with Mike and Jmack, lmyers, get your roll solid before you start getting into runs that are not roadside. Swimming multiple times should not be a sign to step up but to step back and re gain your confidence when in a bad position. Paddle shoshone and roll the whole way down the river. Gore will be the same terrible run next year, keep it safe
 

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Ah come on Gary you got out maybe ten times barely enough to qualify you as a boater,I know cause you posted them all on Facebook. your basically just an old washed up piece of antelope carcass that the crows won't even finish off.. Just playing Gary I'm not saying all coloradians aren't sick look at lee, janney, and stafford. You know what I'm saying that why you live in jackson now. It's prime time to motivate Edge are you ready for an adventure?
 

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I've forgotten more runs then you will do in the next ten yrs son! Heading to Chile in Dec, you can't come you're not good enough.
 

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Ahaha that memory's going to shit Gar. Looking forward to seeing the one photo from the one river you might run... Your to old Gary don't kid yourself gonna break a hip or something.
 

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Man, y'all got me excited for a second! A run flowing in Colorado this minute that stomps Gore in difficulty. My first time passing through CO, I paddled Barrel Springs at High Water, I remember those death drops being holes the size of Sprinter Vans. Also, at that flow it would be a huge bitch recovering lost gear. Not the time of section that would motivate multiple swims, with a crew of two. That was the first and only time i ever paddled that section. If there wasn't so much detail in the OP, I would call Troll.
 

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Ah come on Gary you got out maybe ten times barely enough to qualify you as a boater,I know cause you posted them all on Facebook. your basically just an old washed up piece of antelope carcass that the crows won't even finish off.. Just playing Gary I'm not saying all coloradians aren't sick look at lee, janney, and stafford. You know what I'm saying that why you live in jackson now. It's prime time to motivate Edge are you ready for an adventure?
10 times I wonder on how many of those days was gary just a shuttle bunny?
 

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I'm pretty sure slee doesn't have a roll, so if he's your example of Colorado sick, you're contradicting yourself.

I'm with these other guys, even the Casper denizens, get your shit together before doing harder runs. Persistence and patience are your paddling friends.
 

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I'm pretty sure slee doesn't have a roll, so if he's your example of Colorado sick, you're contradicting yourself.

I'm with these other guys, even the Casper denizens, get your shit together before doing harder runs. Persistence and patience are your paddling friends.
Finally Slee moved to another state so we don't have to claim that hack anymore.
 

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I love this thread. You western boaters are all the same. Swimming, pointing fingers, and trying to compare the boating ability across the state lines. If you really wanted to learn how to kayak, you would stop canyoneering in Box Elder and come to the SE where the water's warm, clean, and steep as shit.

Now if I was looking for a toothless bride that was jacked up on meth I would head to Wyoming!
 
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