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In need of a Beat Down:

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a2703a29-0abe-421a-006f-a6ab34417e77&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

GUNNISON (AP) - A New Mexico woman on a commercial rafting trip in southwestern Colorado was pierced in the lip by a fishing hook - possibly on purpose.


That's according to the Gunnison County Sheriff's Office.

Deputies said Monday that witnesses think it was done deliberately by a disgruntled fly fisherman on the banks of the Taylor River.

Investigators say they couldn't find the suspect.

The 51-year-old woman's name and hometown were not immediately released. She was treated at a Gunnison hospital and released.

The incident was reported to deputies on July 17.
 

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A fisherman got mad at me earlier this season. It was at the Clear Creek play park in Golden. He was fishing in the play features for about 3 hours on a Saturday morning. When I got out at the end of my session I smiled and said, "hey, how's it going, great day, etc.". He started ranting about how good the fishing was early in the morning until the kayakers showed up and scared the fish away. I told him that he should try walking up the path above the play park to get away from the crowds. He would not drop it and I think he was either mentally ill or he was intentionally trying to piss me off.

Well, I tell you it was his lucky day because I was on a month-long vacation with nothing to do but paddle and I was in a great mood. I just walked away from that retard.
 

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Last week on the Poudre, I didn't even notice a fly fisherman, up past his waist and I floated right up on him. I was extremely apologetic. His reply was, "no problem, I should of gone boating tonight anyway". Obviously not having much luck, but I thought it was cool, he was so cool.

Seems like most fisherman on the Poudre are pretty nice and usually say hi. I've never met a fisherman on the Taylor that I trusted with a rod in his hand--they have a mean look in their eye and they never say hi. (And as I float by, a fish usually jumps right next to me, :D )

And I'm sorry, but what serious fly fisherman wants to fish in a play park anyway? I try to get away from the crowds. I think you're right, he was looking for a confrontation.

Just personal observation.

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I was a guide on this trip. It was a deliberate act. He began yelling at the guide, called him a cocksucker, and threw his hook in the middle of a boat with three kids and two adults. The barbed hook was lodged one inch below her eye.
 

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What the F*ck is the matter with some people? Fishing is supposed to be introspective and relaxing- this guy acted like he just pulled into rush hour traffic in the Tech Center. Nothing against fishermen in general, by the way. This is a guy that needs to be 'regulated' by his own kind. I have a guy at Trout Unlimited that would be happy to administer.


 

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Some people lose the essence of what something is suppose to be about and they get angry at the fish or rapid and it becomes a man vs. nature thing and rapidly loses all the enjoyment that could be found in the sport, whether it be paddling, fishing, skiing or just living life. Kinda sucks for them and anyone else they screw with.
 

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Same type of thing happened to my bro, Tony T, in the Royal Gorge, a few years ago. Fisherman tried to hook him and his girl as they floated by. He pulled over, chased him down and kicked his ass. :shock: Now that's what you call river justice. :twisted:
 

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Yep this pisses me off as well. Us rednecks had about a 100 year run as the fishermen in Colorado but now the yuppie fly fishin contingent has us whipped. A very embarrassing time to be a redneck worm fisherman in Colorado!

Over the past few years it seems as we kaykers are expected to bow down then to tip toe around these “this is my public property types” - remember that the surface of the water is public property no matter how much land you own. These fishermen are becoming lke more people out there that for some reason will not share the sandbox.

The only outdoor group that to me is worse are some of the BC tele guys out there. Lately when a fisher gets rowdy and as you can tell I am full up to the top with over done fishermen on public property – Shit I just holler out don’t let us ruin your day – throw a few ends in the hole they were fishin and then you get to watch a “ranger” or yuppie melt down! Priceless!

Finally here is how much the fish are “scared” of boaters on the ark. Last Oct my Brother and I were enjoying a beautiful fall day floatin on the ark. Cast and Blast style.

Well a bunch of ducks jumped up and we were kickin shells out of those shotguns as fast as we could re-load. At the end of the shootin the dogs were in the water getting the ducks, we were hollerin, and I looked down to see a 14” Brown trout hit one of the pieces of wadding from the shotgun shells not once but twice. Now if you can’t scare off the fish with shotguns, dogs, and hollerin rednecks I am not sure how to scare them off.
 

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Right on redneck. I feel it a classic example of one person blamming their short commings on another. And while we are ranting :D Why do the same people that give me dirty looks when I am in my Kayak chat me up like a long lost freind when I am in my Dory. sj
 

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Had a guy do a total meltdown on me on Deckers once. I think some people who have issues are prescribed to take up fishing to relax. For some people they just change the location of their problem, not the problem.
 

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harmels hates us up there, i run that all the time and everytime they are all mean and pissy. the funny thing about it is they don't know anything about fishing because if they knew about fish they would know that they are very teritorial and will alway go back to the same spot, i was in salida yesterday at the upper play hole and a guy fisihing there caught a fish in the eddy i was sitting in and he said he catchs them all the time. so screw you harmels!
 

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dude, fuck harmels and there fucking gay ass private homeowner group. those people cannot seem to understand the fact that the water is NOT their property. ive been harrassed going through there without even touching the banks.

that being said, im not that surprised this happened. most (99%) of the fishermen i see on the taylor are super chill, but once in a while you do get a jackass who thinks he owns the river. i think as long as theres no interaction then just dont worry, like rdnek says, throw a few loops in his hole of choice and be on your way. but if there is interaction, then i think a reaction ala caverdan is in order. i sure know if someone ever did that to me their ass would be toast.
 

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It's not just kayaking. Knowing the West side of Rabbit Ears is totally set aside for non-motorize winter travel, there's people that intentionally cross country ski on the east side of pass where snowmobiling is allowed and scream and yell and flail there arms and poles when you ride past them.

Same thing while dirt biking, I've had city folks of mountain bikes TRY to yell at me for riding my dirt bike on jeep trails a mile from my house when they had no idea what trail they were on or what it was designated for.

Some people think what they are doing is just that much more important than everyone else. And when they are in the wrong, which they usually are, those people need their asses chewed out everytime anyone gets the chance.

And the guy with the fish hook...shoving his fishing pole up his ass and hanging him feet first from a riverside tree will do.
 

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Been up to Rabbit Ears many times backcountry skiing on the legal west side and can't even tell you how many snowmobile tracks go right by the off limits signs. It's a joke up there. Seems some of those 'bilers just can't resist some of that open terrain we snobby backcountry skiers like to ski.

As for skiing on the east side, why the fook would anyone even want to do that except to piss off the motorized crowd? :roll:
 

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I have always thought that the Taylor

is where the big legal battle over over Colorado access will arise.

There is just too much tension betewwen the fly fishing property owners and the boater expressing their right to use the river.
When this battle somes it'll be the most important access fight in the nation. Chris Kelly
 

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oh you will. the times only comes out on thurs....that happened on what, sun, mon? if its a slow news week here in the g spot then it might just make front page too. the reservoir filling up did, and i personnally didnt think that was THAT big of deal.....
 

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actually, according to 9news
"The incident was reported to deputies on July 17."

so it should have made last weeks edition, maybe they will pick it up this week. this person ought to be brought to justice, although now it is probably too late.
 

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oh shit my bad, i thought it had just happened this weekend! yeah whoever the fisherman was is probably long gone by now
 
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