You got that right Nathan, we just added three of their 14'ers to our private fleet. The 16'ers look like they have seen very little use. Get em while the get'ins good!! :wink:Nathan said:The used Avon from Wilderness Aware are in great shape still. Even the ones that have been patched will not give you any problems. Avons are great rafts and will hold up forever if you take care of them.