I believe that it must be a double sealed container, like an ammo can with shitter insert. I know that that a single can will work on Westy, but not sure about Lodore. I'd check with the river office and ask them. Some permits are more strict than others.
Its an Ecosafe system that you want - that's the plastic tank insert for an ammo can that has a toilet seat that attaches to the tank. the tank has a sealing top and then you close the ammo can over the internal tank, that gives you a second level of containment for your poop. They can be emptied at RV dump stations very easily using the 4" RV dump hose that's part of the system and neatly screws into the inner tank. You'll need to have a 8' section of garden hose with fittings on each end - that'll mate to an inlet in the plastic insert - turn on the hose and the tank gets flushed out. You don't need the bacteria for a 5-day trip - just sprinkle a little powdered bleach in there before closing up the groover each morning. There's minimal mess and smell involved with the whole setup. Here's the scoop on the pooper: ECO-Safe Toilet System
§ Toilet systemfor containerization and carryout of human waste on multi-day trips. Toilet systems are strongly recommended, but not required on one-day trips. The human waste container on multi-day trips must be accessible for use during the day.
Toilet, Approved: Plastic or metal container with leak proof lid designed to hold human waste. Plastic bags may not be used as a liner. Toilet system should be sludge design with bio-degradable chemical deodorant. The system should be strong enough to withstand the forces associated with flipping so there is no chance of a spill or leakage. Bag systems are not permitted.
here is what the permit says....so it sounds like a ammo can with a chemical in it should work fine....right? I'll call the office and ask in the morning.
I understand how great those nice toilets are but its just not going to happen this trip..maybe next summer.
The park requires washable, reusable toilet systems and waste containers allowing for the sanitary transfer of waste materials to the human waste disposal unit at Split Mountain. Plastic buckets or paint pails are not permitted. Rocket boxes are permitted but do not provide the best human waste disposal system. Bag systems like "Scat Packers" or "Wag Bags" are not permitted because of their potential to leak or dissolve at high temperatures. They are also not permitted to be deposited in the Uintah Basin landfills. Plastic liners are not permitted as they can not be disposed of at any of the human waste disposal units.
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