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Bringing this debate back to the front line because I just bought a new dry suit this season. What does everyone use, like or dislike?

I hopefully will get a couple season out of dry suit with 10-20 uses, and would be happy cause I got it for a good price. Would like to upgrade in a few years to a nicer one (kokatat), but want this one to last. It's an NRS Extreme.
 

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Assuming you are talking about gasket care and not the entire suit. Never heard of using anything other than 303 - and in CO if you do nothing you normally wont get a year out of your gaskets. I go with what the manufacturer says, could not find NRS blurb but here is Kokotat, and they have a whole page on the rest of the suit:

GASKET CARE AND REPAIR

Latex gaskets need to be treated every 4–6 weeks to prevent drying and cracking. Kokatat recommends 303 Protectant, available in 2 oz. and 8 oz. sizes. Small tears or holes in the gasket may be repaired with Aquaseal. Replacement gaskets and kits are available from your dealer or directly from Kokatat.


http://kokatat.com/general-care-instructions/
 

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Yes gasket care, prob should have mentioned that, but title speaks for itself. I am going off an older post that is convincing me to NOT use 303, so wanted more of an updated discussion about the products. As you stated above, my biggest concern is how dry it is here in Colorado. I hate armor all on cars, and have heard a lot about the damage oils can have on latex and plastics.

Here is older post:
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/...3-vs-armorall-vs-mcnett-seal-saver-36257.html
 

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I prefer bacon grease on my gaskets, especially on Deso and on any trips I do in AK, as it helps my workout program because I'm constantly running when I'm not on my raft...

On a serious note, I actually use bacon grease only for bear protection. I find that it keeps bears away from my tent by liberally spreading it around the one group jackass's tent (you know who you are).

Ok, this time I'm not kidding, 303 is the shit--I bought a gallon of it 3 years ago and I use it even on straps.


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I need to get some 303 or Sealsaver, but I have around 150 days in 11 months in my GMER and the gaskets are still holding strong.
 

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I need to get some 303 or Sealsaver, but I have around 150 days in 11 months in my GMER and the gaskets are still holding strong.
Just reading posts and reviews, a lot of people question if it even works. 150 days is a lot of use, and I am sure you store it properly and keep it out of extreme heat/cold and sunlight. Sunlight has got to be the biggest killer to latex .
 

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x2 Seal Saver. We use it on our dry suit gaskets in our dive shop. Nothing better.
 

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I have used 303 in the past on my Rogue, but honestly didn't notice any prolonged longevity to the gaskets because of it. Have heard Seal Saver works good.

A big difference maker in the life span of your gaskets is being gentle taking it on and off, and drying the garment out of direct sun. I always tuck the gaskets inside when drying outdoors.
 

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I have used 303 in the past on my Rogue, but honestly didn't notice any prolonged longevity to the gaskets because of it. Have heard Seal Saver works good.

A big difference maker in the life span of your gaskets is being gentle taking it on and off, and drying the garment out of direct sun. I always tuck the gaskets inside when drying outdoors.
Sounds like proper drying and storing should be best bet for longevity. I dont want to start putting stuff on that could hurt gaskets instead of help, like armor all does to dash boards. Hate that stuff.
 

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Has anyone ever experimented with WD-40?

I think 303 is good as a lubricant to help get your gaskets on and off, and as Imyers said, being gentle is key to longevity. If you lube them up, you don't have to work as hard to get them on and off. But I'm not sure if I buy into it actually prolonging the life of your gaskets.....

Which is why I'm wondering if WD-40 would also work as a lubricant and conditioner? Its chock full of good lubricating oils, is a water displacer (due to said oils), the oils penetrate great, and its awesome for cleaning. Contrary to belief, if you spray it on and rub it off, it will not leave an oily residue, but rather a nice slick lubed surface, very similar to 303.

http://wd40.com/img/WD-40_2000_uses.pdf

"Coat rubber ties on boats to keep rubber from drying out"
"Keeps rubber door weather gaskets soft and pliable"
"Lubricates rubber bushing"
"Helps protect rubber trunk molding"
"Protects rubber gaskets around the sunroof"
"Lubricates rubber wiring grommets"
"Conditions synthetic rubber"
"Protects rubber seals on lawn and garden sprayers"
"Softens rubber o-rings"
"Cleans and conditions rubber on table tennis paddles"
"Cleans and lubricates rubber seals"
"Lubricates rubber insulation around storm door"

I'm willing to bet it would work awesome to prevent your gaskets from drying out.
 

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Has anyone ever experimented with WD-40?

I think 303 is good as a lubricant to help get your gaskets on and off, and as Imyers said, being gentle is key to longevity. If you lube them up, you don't have to work as hard to get them on and off. But I'm not sure if I buy into it actually prolonging the life of your gaskets.....

Which is why I'm wondering if WD-40 would also work as a lubricant and conditioner? Its chock full of good lubricating oils, is a water displacer (due to said oils), the oils penetrate great, and its awesome for cleaning. Contrary to belief, if you spray it on and rub it off, it will not leave an oily residue, but rather a nice slick lubed surface, very similar to 303.
Doesn't it attract dirt and dust?
 

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No. Read some of their "uses". It prevents the buildup up dirt and dust. Grease and oil attracts dirt and dust. If you wipe clean, it won't attract anything. It will actually prevent it from sticking.
 

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No. Read some of their "uses". It prevents the buildup up dirt and dust. Grease and oil attracts dirt and dust. If you wipe clean, it won't attract anything. It will actually prevent it from sticking.
I am just going off of what my bike shop buddy has always told me about NOT using WD-40 on gears and chain, and how it attracts dirt/dust. But that could be from the bike kicking up crud onto gear/chain.

On a random side note, does anyone else love the smell of WD-40? Dont judge, shit is fantastic. Just like some people like the smell of gas, I like WD-40. :p
 

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I like the smell of it too lol. And I agree with you, but that is because it is sprayed on and left on. If you wipe it completely off of say a latex gasket, there won't be anything left there to attract dirt.

Also, another contender is the dupont teflon lubricants. I doubt the dry-film lubricant would be great since its "dry film", but either the multi-use lubricant or the silicone lubricant might be pretty good. I don't know if silicone is good or bad for latex though. Just some other suggestions. I use the dry film lubricant exclusively as a cleaner and lubricant for anything metal and its amazing. Bike chains, saw blades and table surfaces, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon...76&sr=8-1&keywords=teflon+multi+use+lubricant

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JQ0ZWC3D294MX6FQ0XR

http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon...815&sr=8-2&keywords=teflon+silicone+lubricant
 

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I like the Food Grade Silicone Lubricant for O Rings.
Amazon Link: Lubri_Film
It was recommended to me by a friend that has a brewery as what he uses on o rings and such at the brewery.
I originally got it to use as a lubricant on watershed zip dry closure systems. Works great. I then tried it on my dry suit gaskets. Works great there as well. I like 303 as well, but have found that lubri-film lasts longer.

I would not use Armor All, wd-40, Tri-Flow, Du Pont (anything), any generic commercial product or any petroleum based product.
 

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I'm a diesel mechanic, I wear gloves at all times when working. I wear both latex and nitrile gloves depending on what's available. WD40 and all other type penetrating oils regardless of brand break down both materials. In no way would i use WD40 on my gear.
 

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I'm a diesel mechanic, I wear gloves at all times when working. I wear both latex and nitrile gloves depending on what's available. WD40 and all other type penetrating oils regardless of brand break down both materials. In no way would i use WD40 on my gear.

That's my concern, I would think any oil based product would break down latest faster then using nothing if proper care is taken.


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