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  1. Beginner kayaks?

    Kayaking | Gear Talk
    Hey, so i am relativley new to whitewater kayaking, so i was wondering what a good beginner kayak would be. I dont want a playboat, i am looking for a creek boat that is not too pricey but, not a pice of crap either... thanks for your help :)
  2. Saturn 14' Rafts Good Deal?

    Whitewater Kayaking
    There is an add for 14' Saturn Rafts new in the box for $1300 on Craigs List (14' Saturn Self Bailing Rafts ). They are PVC boat but I don't know much about them. Anyone out there know if this is to good to be true or just a good deal. Thanks for your help.
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