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Old 01-01-2013   #1
 
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Who is rowing an 18 footer outside the grand?

I live in Montana and am pondering an 18 foot raft. I have a 13.5 boat (that im keeping) so it would be the opposit end of the spectrum. I have a son now and am thinking bigger is better for the wife and boy. I've never rowed a boat this big, most of my friends have 14ers. I do the Yellowstone a lot and I know I won't be dragging it through there in the fall but the exta space Would be sweet for spring and most of summer.
On my list of things to do are the many rivers of Idaho with an increasing difficulty level as my boy grows. Any one row a boat that big around those parts? I'll be headed to Colorado for the occasional Westwater trip as well.
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18' cat. not the same beast I think your 18' raft would be close to equivalent to a 20' cat as far as gear etc. I use it for multiday rivers in oregon and Idaho.

but I run 11' oars on a 72" frame which is probably similar. If you have a smaller boat to run when the rivers get bony you are probably fine --- otherwise a LOT of 16' rafts out there seem to accomplish the same thing you are trying to do.
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I should have put raft in the title. I found a sweet deal on the 18 footer is why I'm wondering. I was thinking 16' before I bumped into a good local deal for the 18'. It will be like a house boat!
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rowed my 18 down ladore and deso grey at less than 1000cfs this past summe as part of a powell route expedition. a little tight but no worries!! I have a 13'6" and an eighteen as my boats and feel it is a great combo. I do do the grand pretty much yearly, having a 18' gets you invited to the ditch often. could probably go a few times a year if i was allowed and could afford it!!!
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Good to know! The 13-18 footers in the quiver do the trick.
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curious on the deal you found is it through a commercial company are there more looking for a newer 18 myself
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No it's not commercial.
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Have you ever rowed an 18' loaded raft? I would much rather have 16 vs 18 and not work so damn hard. You will save the money only once. It could be like buying ski boots that are a tiny bit too small because they are on sale. Every day with a bit of pain wishing you had sprung for the right size. I'm not say 18 is the wrong size for you, just cautioning you to not be dollar short and get the less ideal choice. Keep in mind avatards 18' cat is more akin to a 16' raft. You will probably not be able to take it on low water mf salmon trips, once it gets below 2' the upper section is tight and tricky. Same goes for lower water selway. Other than that an 18 should work, but I'd never do it!
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I'm sure it will handle like a barge but I enjoy rowing. I can slap a motor on it too. I've been looking to get one anyway. Beats the upriver winds on the Yellowstone. I want to haul a bunch of gear, friends, and family this year and the 13.5 is getting small for that. With two boats I will have choices.
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I bought a 20' marivia from and outfitter a couple years ago and had the company put in a self bailer floor cost
raft 2250
Floor 1500
Boat incredible I took it down the Ark at 2800 and it handled like a dream . NO NOT A NIGHT MARE!! I had plans for the grand but haven't got there yet . Prob do the snake some this summer . I really like this boat and tons of room and very quick
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