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Old 04-15-2020   #331
 
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Snowmobile trailer roller/winch mod...

Got a 8x10' Snowmobile trailer back in 2008. Back then I simply replaced the decking with Trex boards and basically used the thing until fall of 2018 when I decided to restore the paint and wiring. Other than some warping, the Trex material was fine and I simply re-used it...

Stripped the paint and put on two coats of Rustoleum "Rusty metal primer" and 2 coats of Rustoleum glossy Black...

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After that, decided I wanted a roller/winch system and came up with a "Bastard design" from various Buzz posts. I ordered the roller end plugs from Clackacraft and got some 5/8" "gate hinge" hardware for the roller uprights. The original bore of the Clackacraft plugs didn't match the upright OD so I drilled the plugs oversize for Bronze bushings...

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Purchased a 10' length of 2" galvanized water pipe and cut it to length. Pressed in the End plugs.

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Obtained a Winch from a online trailer parts supplier...worked like a charm!

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Old 04-16-2020   #332
 
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2 thumbs up Mr Longmont! I think my favorite new part(at least to me) was the gate hinges. I'm absolutely gonna see if I can borrow that idea!
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Old 04-16-2020   #333
 
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Thanks Pirate!

I thought about running the roller all the way across the trailer and attach to holes in the upright flange of the trailer itself but the ends of the flange were bent such that I would need a really big hammer or a torch to get them straight again...I think this was easier...Note that I had to do a bit of honing of both the upright OD and bushing ID to get a nice smooth roll...

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Old 1 Week Ago   #334
 
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Sneak Preview-- Custom Build

Hey everyone, I thought I'd share a couple of pics of the custom trailer build-out I'm working on with Josh Spoon. I've been through a couple of trailers searching for just the right set up for my family's needs. We want a trailer that can haul a motorcycle for shuttle, carry a bunch of gear for big trips, carry a double stack (or more), easy solo loading, and super durable. I started with a 16' tandem with low rails, not because I really wanted a tandem but the price was right. I removed the shitty lights/ housings and the front rail. I added the moto chock and a new bulkhead to the low rail and new, waterproof, low profile lights. Now for the tubes. I am adding a roller system platform that will be about 20" off the deck. I think this will be amazing-- like the first time you saw that video of the boat sliding off that trailer with the built-in full-length rollers. The height will accommodate my tallest gear (Drybox, etc) but still not be too tall for loading. I chose the rollers from Northern Tool (Ironton) again. I had very good luck with those on my last trailer. The platforms will be fully removable and gusseted for stability. Finally, I will add strap hook system all the way around, enclose the gear area with access areas, tailgate, and a winch, of course. I'll post pics when it finished. We are about 15 hours into the project.

Let me know if you want to contact Josh for help with your trailer. I have learned a ton and I am building a sweet trailer. Win win!
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I like how you recessed the rollers between the side rails.

The upper angles on that trailer aren't just for keeping your gear on the deck--they give the trailer a lot of stiffness. Removing the sides and moving the front back may make your trailer try to bend at the new front bulkhead--especially if the hitch a-frame terminates there underneath. You might want to extend the channels of the hitch A-frame back one frame past the new front bulkhead.
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I like how you recessed the rollers between the side rails.

The upper angles on that trailer aren't just for keeping your gear on the deck--they give the trailer a lot of stiffness. Removing the sides and moving the front back may make your trailer try to bend at the new front bulkhead--especially if the hitch a-frame terminates there underneath. You might want to extend the channels of the hitch A-frame back one frame past the new front bulkhead.
That is a great point, did not think of it. We will reinforce accordingly!
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I have a similar 2-axle light car hauler trailer. Had considered removing the upper rails myself, but also got advice not to.

I use 2x12 bunks at the upper rails and a single roller at the upper back (and can also drop the roller down to deck height for my dory). Not sure if I ever put my drybox/cooler under the raft, definitely in front of it, but have hauled a lot of bikes, ammo cans, kayaks, etc. under the raft.

The higher bunks are slightly harder to load solo, but if you have a winch, you'll be a-OK. With waterproof lights, you can sink that trailer right until the tires are at the water's edge, roller will be near the water, and loading will be super easy.

Even if you didn't want a tandem, I think you'll appreciate its stability for long highway trips or if you stack 3-4 boats. Plus, tandems generally have larger tires that run cooler. Only thing I don't like about mine is that it's tongue-heavy enough that I can't lift the tongue and drop it onto the ball. It's also harder to pivot 4 tires by hand. I have to back carefully and use the jack. I can lift it by hand if I have a family member sit/stand on the back so their weight lifts the front. Still, I'd rather have the benefits of a tandem and that's a minor tradeoff.

Looking forward to more pics of your build.
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Thanks for the feedback. Really helpful. I'm sure Josh Spoon has a genius way to solve any bending issues up front. More pics to come.
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Thanks for the feedback. Really helpful. I'm sure Josh Spoon has a genius way to solve any bending issues up front. More pics to come.
Question for you, how are you attaching the new platforms to the trailer?
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Question for you, how are you attaching the new platforms to the trailer?
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We'll post pics soon of the upright build. I have almost 4' between the platforms so we are permanently attaching them. I'll still be able to get quads, etc. in there...if we ever decided to buy one. Stay tuned.

MT4Runner-- Thanks again for the suggestions. We are going to reinforce in front of the new bulkhead. Any other clever ideas for gear access or control? I woke up thinking, "Man, If I have all the gear loaded up under the boat and then I back it into the water, what the best way to keep it from sliding down into the water?" Of course, I could use straps but I was trying to think around the problem. I know, I know, I should have better dreams.

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