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Old 01-14-2016   #1
 
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Tig Welding rates

I had a great guy tig weld a stainless fire pan for me. He simply bent the four sides up and made 4 welds at 4 inches each. I paid for the material but I want to send him a few bucks for the welding labor. What would be a good tip? thanks

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I had a great guy tig weld a stainless fire pan for me. He simply bent the four sides up and made 4 welds at 4 inches each. I paid for the material but I want to send him a few bucks for the welding labor. What would be a good tip? thanks
Most welding shops I know of are around $45 an hour shop rate and up. That probably took him at least an hour between prep, weld and cleanup, so I guess that gives you an idea of what he is probably used to getting paid. Beer goes a long ways towards making up for less cash for a lot of people
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My shop bills out at $90.00/Hr. for aluminum and S.S. Pretty standard rate.
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My shop bills out at $90.00/Hr. for aluminum and S.S. Pretty standard rate.
90 bucks an hour, whew. What do you make down there anyway. Have any pics? People would flip if we charged that and there aren't any welders in the whitewater industry that can hang with us.
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90 bucks an hour, whew. What do you make down there anyway. Have any pics? People would flip if we charged that and there aren't any welders in the whitewater industry that can hang with us.
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I would agree with GC Guide that $90/hr isn't out of the norm for a quality welding shop. The $45/hr I quoted is towards the lower end for shop rates. There are many aspects of running a welding business beyond just grinding and tacking something together though...most notably liability insurance.

I'm an intermediate level welder, but both aspects of my job and other hobbies deal heavily in the fabrication and welding area, and nothing I have seen from the whitewater industry leads me to believe that they should be the ones you are comparing yourself to. They get the job done and make some great products, but I would never hire a shop that makes dry boxes or raft frames to do any of the things I've seen a structural Welding specialist shop deal with on a regular basis.

Those ARE some pretty welds though.
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I would agree with GC Guide that $90/hr isn't out of the norm for a quality welding shop. The $45/hr I quoted is towards the lower end for shop rates. There are many aspects of running a welding business beyond just grinding and tacking something together though...most notably liability insurance.

I'm an intermediate level welder, but both aspects of my job and other hobbies deal heavily in the fabrication and welding area, and nothing I have seen from the whitewater industry leads me to believe that they should be the ones you are comparing yourself to. They get the job done and make some great products, but I would never hire a shop that makes dry boxes or raft frames to do any of the things I've seen a structural Welding specialist shop deal with on a regular basis.

Those ARE some pretty welds though.
Very true, good welders make big bucks and usually direct their talents towards specialty stuff like you said. I was wondering if GC Guide just did raft stuff or ran an all around welding shop.

We only do rafting related welding here so the money isn't there for the big dollars
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90 bucks an hour, whew. What do you make down there anyway. Have any pics? People would flip if we charged that and there aren't any welders in the whitewater industry that can hang with us.
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I really would not even consider four welds of about 2" on the op firepan a job. If we were friends, I would consider it insulting if you paid me in $.

Also I would never build a firepan that way. The SS will degrade and need replaced sooner than you'd expect. I made one once.

@ GreenWall, I change $100 per hour. $125 if it get x-rayed. I would really consider other welding opportunities if you cann't get ppl to be happy with your work. Just a thought. I'd go broke trying to meet the needs of the boating industry..... these folks are way too picky..
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Stainless fire pan degrade? Unless you burn coal in it it will last for ever. What grade of stainless did you use and how thick? You may want to X brake the bottom of the pan.
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Stainless fire pan degrade? Unless you burn coal in it it will last for ever. What grade of stainless did you use and how thick? You may want to X brake the bottom of the pan.

If forever is 100 fires. Then your right. I don't burn coal. Usually some brickettes and collected wood on the salmon. Idaho drift wood! My ss pan didn't last a whole lot longer than stock. Your results may very. Good luck.

I started weld in 1990 in the Navy. I did welding on nuculear powered subs. I currently sub contract big industrial welds jobs at paper mills and public utilitys. I also weld gas lines. Some companies require that those welds be inspected. Many get x-rayed.
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