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Old 04-04-2017   #1
 
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Howdy y'all. This is my first post on MB, though I've been reading for a while. We oar rigged the San Juan last year, and this year we scored a permit for the Green, through Deso/Gray. My buddy is a raft hoarder and loaned me gear for last year, but I've got the rafting bug big time now. We live in TN and have been mastering the art of creek rafting in the local rivers. I purchased a 13 foot Hyside off an outfitter on the Ocoee, and I'm starting the process of building a western rig. I'm currently re-lacing the floor and patching some spots and learning quite a but about sticky chemicals. I was just looking for general advice on building a bomber rig. I've seen some videos that show how whitewater can tear a rig to shreds and send all that fancy gear right on down to Mexico. I'd like to build an affordable and sturdy platform that is versatile in big and small water. If anyone cares to share their experience with oar materials and brands, frame layout, and any other tips for keeping the boat together and secure. We have a long term plan to move somewhere out west, and I'm looking at this as a life long investment. Thanks for your help!

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Welcome to MB posting! Under search threads, "oar rig questions" has multiple posts and pics. Enjoy!
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or just scroll thru pages and pages of different setups in the raft porn thread

https://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f...igs-40045.html
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Old 04-04-2017   #4
 
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Why limit yourself? I'd recommend something like a NRS Bighorn frame that'll be very adjustable and that you can run back east in stripped-down mode, and then you can rig for multi-day trips out west. I've run the same 13' raft/frame/oars setup on Boulder Creek through town as I've taken on week long trips.

Good luck, whatever you do, and have fun salivating over the thread linked to above!

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While building take a few weekends and head up to the New river in WV, not that far from you and you can run short multi days and get into some decent whitewater in the gorge. For your location a good place to trouble shoot on a large volume wide river. Welcome to the buzz, I'm an east TN boy as well OG SLOV ( go VOLS). While not a fan of nrs frames that's what is mostly around in that area and might be the easiest to use do to finding local dealers and used parts.
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Funny I have a 13 hyside on order won't be here till June though gotta love that kind of timing. So now I'm rigging a 15 footer but had been doing the thought process on a 13. First figure out your boat, outfitter series and pro series have different dimensions. So find your tube size, boat width and interior width, there is a video on you tube from down river equipment on how to do this if you don't have the specs. Your going to need to know the flat length of your tubes for frame length. If you push it and go for a four bay understand the fourth bay is going to be pretty darn small. Modular frames are great for breaking down light for short trips then build up for multi days.
When you build it, focus on what you think you will do most, not what sounds coolest or what you think you might do. This will help with the wishy washy which way do I go when deciding certain aspects. If you don't want to go with an nrs frame for lighter duty use I would suggest looking at DRE down river equipments gunnison series frames, or look at rowframe.com pretty inexpensive and bomber frames. At the very least you will get more ideas about sizing and what not. . Enjoy the process I've been over thinking it all winter, don't it's not rocket science. Look around the ocoee, nolichucky, noc, and up around Fayetteville WV for used deals on gear it's seems to be a lot harder to find then out here. Play hard, happy boating
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I've got a 13 ft hyside. It's a fun little boat. I'm running an NRS bighorn frame (60 x 6 and with spare parts I can modify it into a compact outfitter. The frame breaks apart for transport or storage. Cut yourself some beaver tails and rig them up.

Deso gray is a good trip. Make sure you take the time for some side hikes.
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Howdy y'all. This is my first post on MB, though I've been reading for a while. We oar rigged the San Juan last year, and this year we scored a permit for the Green, through Deso/Gray. My buddy is a raft hoarder and loaned me gear for last year, but I've got the rafting bug big time now. We live in TN and have been mastering the art of creek rafting in the local rivers. I purchased a 13 foot Hyside off an outfitter on the Ocoee, and I'm starting the process of building a western rig. I'm currently re-lacing the floor and patching some spots and learning quite a but about sticky chemicals. I was just looking for general advice on building a bomber rig. I've seen some videos that show how whitewater can tear a rig to shreds and send all that fancy gear right on down to Mexico. I'd like to build an affordable and sturdy platform that is versatile in big and small water. If anyone cares to share their experience with oar materials and brands, frame layout, and any other tips for keeping the boat together and secure. We have a long term plan to move somewhere out west, and I'm looking at this as a life long investment. Thanks for your help!
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Thanks for the suggestions! A modular frame seems right up our alley. We tend to be fairly minimalist in most things, so I don't think I need more than room for a large cooler and large drybox, so 3 bays would be plenty. I did the San Juan in Puma so these bigger boats are spacious. I'm looking at the Big Horns I and II, but the other suggestions are good. I wouldn't mind supporting a smaller manufacturer than NRS though. No offense to that company, they're great, but I like to go local sometimes. Any other recommendations for frame builders?

Good ideas on test rivers also. We oar rigged the Big South Fork a few weekends ago, so we have experience on the tight and technical. Not much big water experience to be found around here. I'll need to plan a New River trip.

How about oar recommendations? It seems like I would want 9-10 ft oars. I'm thinking 2 bomber oars, and then a cheaper model as a spare. I might have more luck finding some used oars though. I haven't had any luck finding used frames, and it's probably not even a good idea since the fit is so important.
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