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Unread 2 Weeks Ago   #41
 
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Can’t wait to start exercising with mine, and then strap it to a raft.
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Unread 1 Week Ago   #42
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Been getting emails from people wanting to use the BUZZ promo code. I am going to re activate it until Dec 15. It expires 12:01 am 12/16 Same deal applies.
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My hero. Santa has been notified. Merry Christmas to me.
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Unread 1 Week Ago   #44
 
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Great Product!

This is exactly what I have been looking for! I don't like the other pack away designs and have had work done with Zac in the past. Great dude and great product! No longer am I looking to drop the sticks to pull in swimmers. 3 rung orange on the way.
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Last reminder for the procrastinators. BUZZ code ends on the 15th.
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Got mine yesterday! Looks great, feels solid and the 6 year old loved climbing up it while I held the rung! Zach once again showing his greatness! If you’re on the fence, jump in and know this will help you get back aboard whatever you jumped off!
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Unread 1 Day Ago   #47
 
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Here's a workout start.

I'm the bald one, 9 year old and 6 year old demonstrating the ease with which it deploys, retracts, and is going to be great.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r03...ew?usp=sharing




https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBM...ew?usp=sharing


They're just links, I'll try and post the vids later, but if someone else wants to, feel free
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My ladder came today. I can't wait to figure out how I'll mount it, then go try it out next time I take that boat out.


I tried one out five years ago that a friend had on his boat. It was super easy to use. I don't know if my memory is faulty, if they have more "snap" when new, or this is part of the design improvements, but it seems like the retracting hardware is stiffer/stronger. Groovy! I also don't remember the grip tape, but again -- it was one time I hopped off the boat to see how it worked, and it was five years ago.


My plan is to mount it between two D-rings so it is attached mid-way along the tube rather than mount to the frame. That way it will work to get ON the boat if the boat decides to pretend it's a kayak and do the "F" thing.



How are YOU mounting YOUR rungs to your boat?
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The ladder will relax a bit once it it loaded a few times with your weight. The rope will have a few percent stretch that it doesn't get back after some use. That is figured into the retraction system. I don't want them to get saggy over time, so they are a little snappy up front. You could break it in or just let it happen naturally. I have one here that has been loaded a bunch with swimmers, weight hanging on it overnight in the garage and it has over 1000 reps. It is definitely smoother than a new one but still retracts nice and snug.

When you are in the water you'll find it plenty easy to pull down and use, even new

The originals did have grip tape though your buddy's may have been worn off.

I mount mine to the frame. It still works with the boat upside down though not as easily /well as when its mounted at the mid point like you mention. I try and be right side up at least 99% of the time so usually rig for that. If I was running water where I thought I'd be upside down more I would consider gluing on 2 dedicated d rings just for the ladder or at least one to compliment an existing one so it could be rigged nice and tight to the boat at the mid point. The space you create between the boat and the ladder is the only real entanglement space so I try and keep that to a minimum. This Spring I plan on making a video of different ways to rig and show them in use on rightside up and upside down boats.

I also have plans for a video showing all the safety aspects. For instance, step on the bottom rung, lift up on the top one and try to twist the ladder. You'll see that if there is any load on the ladder it simply cannot twist. To make the ladder twist you have to work very hard at removing load while not letting it retract as you twist, something that is near impossible in a real world situation. That design feature (not one that I can take credit for) is one of my favorites and one of the things I think really sets this apart form others.
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Thanks for the great feedback Zach.


My goal is to never need to climb up onto the boat unless the white side is pointed towards the sky. I'm looking forward to exploring some options. I'll look at how Karl has his rigged, and I do need to add a few more D-rings anyway; that might be a great alternative. The frame will probably work fine. If not... maybe I'll have to add a three-step model.
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