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Old 12-02-2008   #1
 
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Anyone know of a company that sells 1.250 aluminum tubing , I am hoping to find the cheapest route, not from a frame builder/raft company, their costs are a bit to high for me, $$ is a issue...I can have it bent in a muffler shop. Thanks, any other ideas appreciated!

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try www.onlinemetals.com
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Alreco

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massive amount of scrap and new metals. best price if you can find what you need and not have to pay for him to cut anything

Erickson Metals-Colorado Incorporated

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new only... they sell to us at work, not sure if you can buy off the street. per se

I bought my raft tubing at alreco.. paid ~30 bucks (3 years ago) for 12 foot of schedule 40 tubing. bring a frame fitting with you to make sure of fitment. the tube I bought is slightly bigger than speedrail fittings, but didn't matter for what i used it for. I added on two static bays at either end of my frame ... five bay storage madness.
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i did some research on aluminum pipe awhile back and the only place i could find it in the denver area was alreco. i think they only sell it in 20 foot lengths. 1.25 x 20 feet was around 50 bucks, i think.
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Anyone know of a company that sells 1.250 aluminum tubing , I am hoping to find the cheapest route, not from a frame builder/raft company, their costs are a bit to high for me, $$ is a issue...I can have it bent in a muffler shop. Thanks, any other ideas appreciated!
I would check if you can bend T-4, T-5, or T-6 aluminum in a muffler bending machine first, before spending the money. It may be too brittle to bend cold. I have always used speedrail corners and tee's, no bending required. To cut pipe I used an old carbon blade in a chop saw, worked fine. You may need to find a hot bending machine for clean curves. T-1 or T-2 might bend in a muffler shop if you can find it but might be to soft for river raft frame.
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Thanks for the info gents! I`ll look into alreco in the denver area, I may be able to use a T-fitting in leau of a bend! I think 20 feet may be all I need!
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Thanks for the info gents! I`ll look into alreco in the denver area, I may be able to use a T-fitting in leau of a bend! I think 20 feet may be all I need!
My understanding is you want T-6063 if you're gonna bend it (vs T-6061). I am sure there is a metallurgist here who will clear this all up. One prob with speed rails for the corners is the set screws could strip out (problematic for catarafts especially). its not such a big deal on the crossbars.
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My understanding is you want T-6063 if you're gonna bend it (vs T-6061). I am sure there is a metallurgist here who will clear this all up. One prob with speed rails for the corners is the set screws could strip out (problematic for catarafts especially). its not such a big deal on the crossbars.
This is what I heard when I did my research as well. T-6063 bends easily (with the right machinery), T-6061 is harder to bend. If you call AAA Rafting Equipment in Denver you can ask them about it - they have a machine shop in house and build their own frames. They will also custom make pretty much anything you want - not the cheapest option, but they know their stuff and were cheaper than DRE (Down River Equipment, also in Denver) when I priced it out.

One other thing to consider is weight - a bent rail will weight less than an speed rail elbow (and it is stronger). Of course a bend packs to a larger size than an elbow joint if you want a breakdown frame.
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Anyone know of a company that sells 1.250 aluminum tubing , I am hoping to find the cheapest route, not from a frame builder/raft company, their costs are a bit to high for me, $$ is a issue...I can have it bent in a muffler shop. Thanks, any other ideas appreciated!
try two pieces of alum pipe or steel tube conduit supporting a drop bag. oar shafts work well also.
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Anyone know of a company that sells 1.250 aluminum tubing , I am hoping to find the cheapest route, not from a frame builder/raft company, their costs are a bit to high for me, $$ is a issue...I can have it bent in a muffler shop. Thanks, any other ideas appreciated!
for the 1.5" pipe 1.9" o.d. , rowframe has setscrew tee fittings for $5.00
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