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Old 03-22-2009   #1
 
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Pick my future raft!

I need help deciding!

Puma:
AIRE Puma Air Floor Raft

NRS Otter 120:

NRS Otter 120 Self-Bailing Rafts

I know these are completely different boats.

I will be carrying this boat usually with only 2 people a good little distance. So take weight into consideration.

I would usually be r2ing or rowing by myself.

Mostly class III stuff

Might do some climbing over rocks with the raft every now and then

Which boat is better for my purposes and which when is the better buy in terms of amount of boat for the price.

Thanks,

George

P.s I am new here, but I have lurked for years! Thanks for all the previous posts that I have gained a lot of information from!

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Old 03-23-2009   #2
 
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Let me just say what I know about the Otter. I had a 13' one, and didn't really like it. The floor came up really high, which forced my knees up high, which conflicted with the oar stroke. It also severely limited gear hauling capacity, since you have less free space between the frame and floor. It also didn't really track that great. Maybe they've fixed this problem though?

Since you're R2ing, that shouldn't matter as much except you won't have much height in the boat for your legs. Hypalon is heavier than some other types of material, but with Aire's bladder system I don't know how they compare.

I don't have any experience with the Aire Boat at all. Many people love them, esp the warranty. The Otter is a thinner grade of hypalon than their expedition series, which will help with weight.
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George is a toolbag. Don't Help him.
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Old 03-23-2009   #4
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I second this opinion.
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Troll are you saying?
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Old 03-23-2009   #6
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Troll baby Troll

"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community"...

I guess I am a troll.
but...

George is a really good friend... we're just poking fun at him because he's a great kayaker who wants to get into pushing rubber.
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Old 03-23-2009   #7
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Aren't Pumas the little skinny ones that turn sideways and flip?
NRS are heavy from my memory of having to lug them around.

I am not sure why you are not considering the Maravia for R-2 applications and weight per raft. I have r2ed a willi 1 quite a bit and liked it a lot. I can also carry it by myself.

Well, why not?

This seems to be a good candidate ( on sale too )
https://www.cascadeoutfitters.com/in...=2368&framein=

A ranger for under 2K
https://www.cascadeoutfitters.com/in...=2641&framein=


Here is a sale price on a demo Super Puma.

https://www.cascadeoutfitters.com/in...d=124&framein=



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Old 03-23-2009   #8
 
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I love Aire rafts, the only downside is that the floor fills up with water between the bladder and the external floor. It's great for tracking and avoiding spills in big water. When I pull my big raft out of the water onto the trailer, it drains for like 5 minutes, it's like I pulled the plug or something. This might be a downside if you have to carry the thing often. As far as durability... Aire rafts are bomber. I like NRS, they just don't feel as tough and definately don't track the same. I assume that is primarily because of the difference in floor design.
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I hear Saturn rafts are awsome. Buy a Saturn.
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These guys seem to have good luck with Aire puma series while R2ing some rad lines - Yo, but they aren't "puncture proof" like the Saturns http://www.saturnrafts.com/
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