Perfect 14 ft. Cat - Mountain Buzz
 



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Old 09-20-2015   #1
 
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Perfect 14 ft. Cat

So I want a Sotar cat ( Legend only) that I can carry gear and a passenger. I boat in Cail so I want short and fat. Plan: get the Sotar stretched to 14.6 and add 1" to the diameter of tube think that would be 24 ". Slap a Madcatr frame and good to go. Need to carry some gear but want that Tunnel the whole way through the boat. So do I get a cargo bay, metal, or get some kind of mesh bag and add D rings in good spot? All comments welcome. Rip me apart.
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Old 09-20-2015   #2
 
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I must have missed your crazy posts.....

I don't think I would go for a Legend in this situation. It is too flat to make it longer. I had a friend who had a 16' and it was like a tank. He sold it. Gear and passenger it is tough to beat an Aire Jag.
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I agree with lhowmt. And you better order you madcatr now if you want to "slap" it on by the 2017 season. He's at least a year out. You can run a flat mesh on top of your frame and stack gear on that. Takes away. Your cooler will sit in the tunnel area.
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Old 09-20-2015   #4
 
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I have a 14 foot Legend with 23.5 inch tubes. It's great as a tandem setup and works well when I use it for early season MFS trips with my share of group gear but I should have listened to Ted. It's too big for any thing else. Get the 12.5 or stick with round boats if you want to carry a load of gear. Had a Jag too. Why drive a truck when you want a sports car.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but Legend + Madcatr frame = day/play rig in my mind. A passenger/gear cat is something else entirely. Based on the title of this thread it sounds like you're looking for the ever elusive "do it all" cataraft. That's a tall order, and you will have to compromise on some of things you're after. I started with a 14X22 Maravia cat, then switched to a 14X24 Maravia cat. It was a nice cat for 1-2 people and a modest gear load. I'd say to look at what you'll use the cat for most of the time, and go that direction for design & frame. I think you can get pretty close to the perfect 14 foot cat, but not 100%. I have no experience with Sotar cats, but lhowemt has lots and I'd take her advice on them to heart. Good luck with your quest.
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I have a 12.5 Legend and will be picking up and 11 footer that I want to make as light as possible. ( next post) This 14 ft. Legend will be for multi day / or passenger trips. I have am NRS frame that will work until the Madcatr comes in. A 14 ft. can carry 914lbs does not seem like allot when u put frame and 2 people on it. Bet that could easily be 250 lbs. Load capacity is over rated in my opinion and would like a boat that will still give me performance. Bet weight ratting is really about 1/2 of what they say. Cali does not have wind or miles of flat water, although I would like to take her down Middle Fork Salmon and Grand ( launch date may 5th) or maybe the S. Salmon That river sounds like my 12.5 and backpack style gear, light as possible.
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Sotar ST Cat and a RowFrame chassis. Last I checked, there was a 1 week wait
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Old 09-21-2015   #8
 
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I have a 12.5 Legend and will be picking up and 11 footer that I want to make as light as possible. ( next post) This 14 ft. Legend will be for multi day / or passenger trips. I have am NRS frame that will work until the Madcatr comes in. A 14 ft. can carry 914lbs does not seem like allot when u put frame and 2 people on it. Bet that could easily be 250 lbs. Load capacity is over rated in my opinion and would like a boat that will still give me performance. Bet weight ratting is really about 1/2 of what they say. Cali does not have wind or miles of flat water, although I would like to take her down Middle Fork Salmon and Grand ( launch date may 5th) or maybe the S. Salmon That river sounds like my 12.5 and backpack style gear, light as possible.
Sounds like you've got the day/play cat already. So why not get an ST cat & use the NRS frame you already have for your passenger/gear cat? Or perhaps get a round boat instead? Rafts are better suited to gear & passengers. After over 15 years of rowing cats, I switched to a raft last year and couldn't be happier. Just a thought.
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Re:l...Pound for pound of buoyancy, the cat is more efficient. The intricate seams, geometry, and hull friction make the cat best float per buck spent. However I too like the Sotar ST Rafts since they are a USA product
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I'm not as expert as some of these folks, but I don't see why that would be a bad design. Very close to the Lion 14 but the lion is even bigger still on the tube diameter.
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