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Old 06-18-2013   #1
 
Glenwood Springs, Colorado
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opinions needed -> raft with no rocker/rake

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Have opportunity to purchase a raft with no rake/rocker. Absolutely flat from bow to stern. Old fishing rig...but want to use for whitewater; up to Class IV.

thoughts?

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Old 06-18-2013   #2
 
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If it's stiffer (I.e. Pvc) and it's self-bailing, it might work.

A hole-punching machine?
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Old 06-18-2013   #3
 
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Probably going to be a wet ride, and I would wory about how it would handle a hole at the bottom of a big drop... Maybe it would pencil?
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Have opportunity to purchase a raft with no rake/rocker. Absolutely flat from bow to stern. Old fishing rig...but want to use for whitewater; up to Class IV. thoughts?
This 14-foot boat is a World Famous "12-Man" raft made in Japan in the early 1970s. A ship repair yard in Portland bought a load of them to install on a ship they were re-fitting, but the union shipfitters refused to install foreign-made rafts. The company sold them to employees at bargain prices.

I bought this one for $100 from a guy who bought it from the shipyard. He bought it as a fishing boat that he could put in the trunk of his car. He used it one time, on a lake, and decided it was too much work.

It was my flag ship for eleven years. I built the frame based on a Bill McGinnis design. Shown here on the Middle Fork in 2006, this raft has also run the Rogue, Deschutes, Kettle, Snake, Main & Lower Salmon, Selway, Klamath, John Day, North Flathead, Clackamas, and many other rivers. Can it do Class IV water? It can if you can. The canvas covers on the front and rear keep most of the water out.



This rig is still alive and usable after 38 years, handed down to my baby sister and her husband!
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Old 06-19-2013   #5
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Yep, rowed and paddled the old Udiscos all over the west for many years. That ain't a Udisco, but it looks like one except the Udiscos were grey hypalon. They were flat as a Kansas corn field, and most often soft as a kittens tail.

And that frame looks a lot like what we used to use. The only difference is, we used to pile shit so high you couldn't see over it to row, and had passengers bags instead of canvas in the front and back to help keep the water out. Worked pretty good, but sometimes the passengers would complain we had promised their stuff wouldn't get wet. Flat denial usually ended the conversation.

Never flipped one, but managed to fold one in half a couple of times, and dumped a few tourists in the water if they weren't paying close attention. Say what you will about those old Udiscos, for the price they were a good consistent ride.

Go for it; rake and rocker are over rated
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Old 06-19-2013   #6
 
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the boat is urethane, 7 year old Sotar ST or SP (whichever they stopped making)...thanks for the replys everyone.
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the boat is urethane, 7 year old Sotar ST or SP (whichever they stopped making)...thanks for the replys everyone.
It's prolly a strike geared towards fishing least amount of kick they make. They still make sp's and st's btw.
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