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Old 11-09-2013   #1
 
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number of tie down points for frame

I've got small boats and a small frame. Each boat has 4 side D rings (2 per side). That seems fine for what I use the boats for (day trips, few passangers), but is there a point (raft size, load, power of water) where 4 just isn't a good idea? Thanks!

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Depends as you said, the application ...

Stern frame for oar assist paddle boating will require more "D" rings.

As your boat becomes multi- purpose, you will add accessories.... Have Fun customizing your boat !!
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I've been pondering this as I think about getting a larger raft. Most of the rafts my friends have (14, 15, 16 footers), don't have any additional D-rings on the center of the sides. Just the four that they use to secure their frames. Some of them have extra D-rings on the stern for securing a cargo net. My little Hyside has an extra on the inside of the stern that was really handy for extra strapping of gear in addition to the cargo net. If I order a new raft, I'll get extra D-rings on the inside bow & stern, and a couple extras on the outside stern. I haven't decided about the side center ones yet. I think they might be useful for better frame strap down points, but I'm not positive if they're really needed since most rafts don't come with them.
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A quick glance through the "Raft Porn" thread shows that not a lot of rafts have the center side d-ring. Some that do have it aren't using it to strap their frame, just running a perimeter line through it. So, taking that into account, and the fact that most rafts don't come standard with them, I'll probably save the money and not get these. Let's see what others have to say????
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You will be fine with just four tie down points.
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I think you start to need/want a center one for 16' and higher raft when loaded. 14' and smaller 4 straps is no problem. However if I was starting over I'd get one on our 14'. D rings are so useful.
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What you need to remember is that when and if your raft is upside down, your frame and all your gear is hanging from four little cam straps.
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The standard 4 d-rings for the frame tie down has been good for me until I hit the entry hole at Snaggletooth a few years back. That crunch moved the fully loaded frame 2 inches forward. Since, I have been running 2 straps back to a rear-positioned d and that solved that problem. 2" d rings and 1-1/2 inch straps should be standard for frame tie down as they are all around beefier than the 1 inchers.

A larger boat, like <16' could be rigged with a trailer bay and that would take some additional d rings to rig properly. If a person is handy, those rings are not that big of a deal to install or not too much money if one pays a pro to do it.
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Somewhere out there one of the sewingware vendors has a vid of a raft caught in a hole in Cataract. It continues until the frame rips free. Then a message comes up 'need new straps?'. It's sick and twisted manipulation. After I watched it twice I switched to doubled 1 1/2" straps with an added middle d-ring on both sides.
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Somewhere out there one of the sewingware vendors has a vid of a raft caught in a hole in Cataract. It continues until the frame rips free. Then a message comes up 'need new straps?'. It's sick and twisted manipulation. After I watched it twice I switched to doubled 1 1/2" straps with an added middle d-ring on both sides.
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What you need to remember is that when and if your raft is upside down, your frame and all your gear is hanging from four little cam straps.
Good points. Maybe that middle side D-ring is looking more attractive? Definitely will beef up to 1.5 straps for the raft frame. I do recall that one of my friends uses the larger straps on his frame. On my catarafts the 1 inch straps were ok, since there's like a thousand of them on each tube.
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