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Old 09-30-2014   #1
 
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Minnkota endura submergence

I have a MinnKota endura electric motor that I use to maneuver a small sailboat around docks. I am contemplating using it on my 14' SB raft to assist with flatwater trips. I am curious what the buzz experience is with endura's when they get fully submerged, including the tiller. My battery is a fully sealed marine, so I'm okay there, but what happens when the motor control spends an hour or so in a river?

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Old 10-01-2014   #2
 
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Why would this happen? I can't imagine it is going to be anything but bad for your motor. I don't have experience with trolling motors but lots of time spent using electric power tools in some lousy weather and sometimes just rain will cause the tools to act up. I am sure the trolling motor is much better sealed but why would it ever be submerged? For an hour? On a flat water trip. I think you need to take measures so this doesn't happen.
Also if I am totally misunderstanding your question I am sorry.


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Flatwater trips or whitewater trips with long sections of flatwater? What does your iphone do when you drop it in the bottom of the river?
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Deso is a good example, the San Juan is another, the Chama is another, much of Montana and Wyoming on the east side of the divide, Dominguez-Escalante/Stillwater/Meander/Labyrinth/Ruby-HT are flatter examples but if you've seen them in a bad storm you know they are not to be taken lightly. And no, I've never flipped on any of them, but Stuff Happens, so I still rig for flip.

And my old non-data phone (I'm an OLD FART, with an MS in Comp Sci, who misses software engineering and not using the latest technology not at all in his retirement) lives in a waterproof case, on the rare occasions I take it on the boat(s). Plus, my MinnKota is a BOAT motor. MinnKota says nothing at all on the subject, ditto West Marine, etc. MKs are widely used, especially the saltwater version, for dingies on sail boats. Someone, certainly, has dropped one and dried it out at some point, but you wouldn't know that from the web.
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And my old non-data phone (I'm an OLD FART, with an MS in Comp Sci, who misses software engineering and not using the latest technology not at all in his retirement) lives in a waterproof case, on the rare occasions I take it on the boat(s). Plus, my MinnKota is a BOAT motor. MinnKota says nothing at all on the subject, ditto West Marine, etc. MKs are widely used, especially the saltwater version, for dingies on sail boats. Someone, certainly, has dropped one and dried it out at some point, but you wouldn't know that from the web.[/QUOTE]

I would ask the manufacturer this question and then buy a water proof bag to fit or ask Sotar make you one just to be on the safe side.

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Tried that already. They report that dropping your motor in the water is 'not recommended'.

I'm actually contemplating something like cling plastic wrap. The motor itself is designed to be in the water, the control unit/tiller is small enough it can fit in a heavy trash bag. Just need to do a good job on sealing the bag, thus cling wrap. But the question remains, what happens if that doesn't work?
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Test it out. It's the only reasonable thing to do 😜


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Can you remove the controller head and transport in a pelican case until you reach flatwater? I think the problem you will find is either not enough thrust/assist vs battery life/weight. You might be better off adding some paddles for your passengers
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Fixed head, not removable. I'm mostly just interested in an assist for very slow water, so my marine deep-cycle battery is enough for about ~6 hours of motor time (12 miles) used selectively. I already use the battery and motor to move around a small sailboat, can't use a gasoline motor where I usually sail. It'd be nice to also get some easy river miles from it. I already spoke with the dog, he's not big on the paddle idea.
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Essentially I'm with Sembob... Given Minnkota's generic non-answer above I'd assume that they could either fail or work, depending on a lot of things... My question to you is, if you've run this type of water before and never flipped what's the worst that could happen? Flip, ruin it and have to row out... it might suck but if rowing is what you'd do anyways it won't be any worse than not trying (save the dead motor). Worst case and you actually flip and it dies is your out a few hundred bucks... If that's the worst thing that happens in a flatwater flip my guess is you'll be counting your blessings.

I have had two minnkota trollers over the years, still have both actually. They have been splashed, left in the rain ...but never submerged. My bow mount (MK autopilot from the early 2000's) is mounted all summer long, it sees every major T-storm plus significant splashing when on the river for the past 5 years and it always works, worked Friday actually. I've very briefly thought about rigging the autopilot up to the raft but haven't yet tried. My main issue has simply been reluctance to license another boat, simply another hassle with potentially minimal reward. I do have a 6hp 2-stroke kicker that I've thought of rigging for Missouri river trip below ft Benton, if I were to do this it would open the door to playing with the MK on shorter trips. In the end if I were to rig a motor on a big water trip I'd rig a drybox, bag or something to put it in as noted above. But only if there were real odds of submerging it (read flipping). Flatwater trips, I'd trust to chance.
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