802 isn't one of those guys - he's just new enough to the buzz that his impressions have been tainted by the SW Oregon Frame Nazi's. Give him time, he'll figure out that NRS frames outnumber all others 10:1, even in Oregon.
With that said 802, you should PM spider and get the details on his frame. It's super nice, I've seen it up close.
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