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Old 08-04-2017   #1
 
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flip lines 2 or 4

Who runs 2 flips lines all the time vs. 4 all the time? I know there is a benefit of consistency of rigging but do others change this up based on what they are running?

I know some folks don't run fixed flip lines so you people can disregard

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kinda depends on how heavy the boat is...
I keep two on each of my boats almost all the time. If I'm on a multiday trip in a big boat i would put 4 on the boat.

Having recently been in a bad re-flip situation I'd like to remind people to tie their flip lines on to the FRAME, not to d-rings or straps (they tend to rip right off).
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I carry 2 in my strap bag where they are useless
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I have two hanging on my frame. Depending the kind of trip (big multi-day), most of the boaters have a strap or belt with a 'biner around their waist to add more "power". Re-flipping a full boat is not easy!
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Mine is 2 loops of webbing and a beener worn around my waist. The webbing can also serve as an anchor point for a z drag.
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I run 4 on my 156R and two on my 13.9 ft Hyside. I only run two because I am cheap. The group rowing the Hyside on a Main Salmon trip last week flipped in Big Mallard. Two lines were fine to overturn.
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Let me focus the question a bit differently. It's not about how many you run on a single side, but rather if you run them on both sides. The only way I can think that it makes a difference to run on both sides is if you are floating down the river and need to un-flip while moving and need to know that any side you are on you can grab a flip line. That being said, my raft, fully loading is going to need to be controlled before any un-flippin would be done.
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Weight of 4 flip line bags is negligible and they are not in anyone's way.

I have 4 on the raft at all times. If I start adjusting per the trip requirements, I'll most likely forget and only have 2 when I should have had 4.
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I carry two flip lines with biners in my pfd pockets. That way if I'm on the river I got most situations handled no matter who fllips. And, if campsite landings are overgrown like the Dolores you can quickly secure a boat to willows or branches and hop off and secure properly. I was solo in my cat on the D and this worked really well. That and loppers. I'm convinced that those are a necessary item.
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jamesthomas is the correct answer. lines need to be stowed in your pfd if possible not around your waist or hanging off the side of your boat. huge safety hazard. I will get downvoted by the old guard but not worth the risk.
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