What's everyone using these days for quick inflation (Edit: in the field, not at home, bonus for cordless)? I've seen people with cordless leaf blowers. DeWalt had a sale on a high volume inflator at Home Depot at one point, and I've seen a Ryobi that looked like a drill, but had an inflation nozzle on it. I was wondering if anyone has tried any of these space age technologies, and would love to hear how well they work, or if you burn them out the first try on a real raft that isn't a rubber alligator.
I received one of these for Christmas. It's awesome. On one battery it filled 1 16' Avon, 2 14' Avon's, a 12' Hyside and a set of 16' NRS cat tubes plus 2 Duckies.
At home I use a shop vac of the large size to inflate, clean and deflate with.
Here’s a Bosch. I used a dishwasher hose adapter with a male thread x barb fitting to attach it to the blower tube. Fits the leafield valve perfect. I can blow my minimax about 3 minutes. Version 2 will have something to push the valve open when inflating.
I've got a Milwaukee 18V cordless blower. It works OK, but I usually take the 18V cordless vacuum instead because it reverses to a blower and gets higher pressure in the raft. I would pack the blower on the river, but the vacuum is a little bigger and stays in the truck.
I have the ryobi one you're talking about. I already have a bunch of the batteries and it was cheap.
It works awesome, but it's not high pressure. You need to open your valves and fill to light pressure and then top off by hand.
I used it last weekend and filled a 16 footer and a 13 footer, and also deflated them at takeout, all on 1 x 2ah battery and we didn't even kill the battery.
I use a small 1 gallon DeWalt shop vac. Don’t have the model number, but it’s the model that can be plugged in using a cord or run on an 18v or 20v battery. Works great.
I use the bottom of the vac as storage to hold a spare electrical cord, roll of electrical tape, and 20v battery. I also rigged a leafield adapter/connector to the end of the hose for solid connection to valves on raft. ‘Blow’ mode inflates, ‘suck’ mode deflates like a vacuum sealer. Although I never deflate.
I’ve found this to be a very mobile system that runs on multiple power sources depending on power availability. This will get it pretty well inflated, then top off with K-Pump.
I picked up a Dewalt 20V cordless "compact jobsite blower", dce100b. It has worked very well. I already had an assortment of 20v Dewalt batteries and chargers.
An adapter comes with it that takes the tube adapter to Leafield valves perfectly. We use it for an Aire Outfitter 2 IK; its 12 feet long, about like a small raft. The Dewalt replaced a blower that came with an air mattress, which was more compact, but relatively weak and needed the valves open to get air in. With the Dewalt low/high button in the high position, it will get air past a closed Leafield valve, and also another valve type that is on the Aire foot brace. And its super fast.
With the Leafield adapter, the unit is about 17" long; could be more compact if it was purpose-built, but its easy to loan to others at the putin, then we just leave it in the car, for day trips. We still top off with a Kpump, after getting the boat in the water. A small 1.5Ah battery lasted a few days last week, pumping up two twelve foot IKs a couple times a day. Then I switched to a 4Ah battery on the last day of the trip. This unit should work well for rafts.
I use the Airhead that goes for about $11 at Amazon, connected to my little Li-ion jump starter battery. Cut the cord on the airhead and put an RC5 connector on, which plugs into the battery. Will do several rafts on a charge, a few minutes per raft.
I have the Milwaukee M18 blower but wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't already had the Milwaukee battery platform, found the blower cheap as stand alone tool on ebay for about $45. Will inflate my packraft in about 45 seconds and the 5.0 battery will last a few weeks if just inflating my packraft and sleeping pad. Only thing compared to other inflators others have mentioned is that it only inflates, will not reverse and deflate. Used it on a West Water trip last fall and it easily inflated 40 plus packrafts over 2 days and still had 3 bars after.
Also have the small hand held inflator/deflator that Kokopelli raft sells and it honestly is not worth the money, can buy the same thing on Amazon cheaper without their brand name on it. Works ok on a packraft, will inflate and deflate, easy to charge via usb c connected to wall outlet or via a small portable solar panel. Nice thing is that is is very small and compact and can easily fit in a small dry bag for multi day trips.
I use a Coleman air mattress inflator, about $15 I think, plugs into the cigarette lighter on the car. Surely not as fast as the other options mentioned and doesn't do any sucking to deflate, but gets the job done and doesn't take too long. Blows my 14er up just fine to a soft level, top off by hand pump that goes on the river.
I use this as well. Cheap and reliable! If its the same red one that I have, you CAN DEFLATE. Open the valve and turn the pump sideways where it sucks air in and place it over the valve. VOILA! Not perfect but it works.
Ok, so I'm no Stephen Hawking, but the DeWalt inflator is about 15 CFM, and the blower is 100 CFM. The difference is the inflator is designed for inflating stuff. So do the leaf blowers really blow up the boat 10ish times faster, or is it apples to oranges?
The inflator is for high pressure low volume applications and the blower is for low pressure high volume applications.
I watched some fire fighters try to use one of their high pressure oxygen tanks that they use to breath in fires (similiar to a scuba tank) to inflate their raft on the Salt this year and it didn't work very well since its similar to the inflator. Works great for relative small things that need to get up to high pressures but doesn't fill large low pressure spaces very well.
There were some tubers at the Canon City takeout that were trying to use a tire inflator to fill their tubes and it was taking forever. I watched a guy do it for 10 minutes and he only filled it up about an 1/8th to 1/4 of the way in that time. I felt sorry for him since the kids were getting bored and sitting in the sun, so I let him use my Makita leaf blower and he filled 4 of the tubes up in about 5 minutes.
So yes....my makita blower will fill 10 times faster then an inflator...but it will probably only get it to about .5 psi or less. That is why everyone says fill it most of the way with the blower and then top it off with a hand pump. It takes about 30 pumps per chamber with my 4" DRE hand pump to get it up to pressure after filling it most of the way with the blower. I've had to blow rafts up with just a hand pump and it takes hundreds of pumps per chamber so its definitely worth having a blower.
There are some blowers like the Big Red Blower and some other ones, but they are 120v. The 12v pumps you hook up to your car can go higher pressure but don't seem to fill as quickly and you have to get your vehicle close to the boat. Not the end of the world, but its nice to walk around with a battery operated blower and do a bunch of boats.
I definitely think there is room for a battery operated blower that can get up to the recommended 2lbs. that most raft manufacturers recommend. I've been meaning to look into and see what it takes. The Big Red does it by just having a huge high speed blower but I bet its pretty high amperage.
I picked up this sweet gadget for inflating my inflatables...it's called a barrel pump. Cordless, easy to repair in field, water resistant, works on all valve types...and you get a free workout. My 7 chanber 14' DIB takes about 10 mins, it would be less if it weren't for the mil valves.
After I blow my 14er to shape with a shop-vac, it doesn't really take that many strokes on the hand pump to get it to 2.5 psi or so. I bet I save 90% of the strokes by using a blower. And you could never accidentally blow a baffle with a low pressure blower.
My Airhead type 12V air mattress inflator draws 11.5 Amps. I use my cigarette plug in the truck for it on my IK. That takes about 30 seconds for all chambers. If I had a need to use a separate battery, I could easily use a battery similar to my motorcycle battery. It is a 6" X 6" x 3.5" AGM. It is rated at 14.5 Amp Hours. It will provide 14.5 Amps for 1 hour. I would not want to discharge the battery below 25% as fully discharging a battery is not good for it. So I could run the inflator for 1 hour. 11.5 over x = 14.5 over .75 ; x= .5948. Another choice is Sealed Lead Acid Batteries commonly used for kid's toy vehicles that are around 10 AH so would be good for .86 hours. So if you have a broken toy truck, or see one at a garage sale, you have a roughly 1 hour inflator battery and a charger for it.
On the other hand, it seems the Makita inflator would fill a larger craft 50 times faster just given it's 473 CFM vs. the Airhead's 9 CFM. However, neither will give CFM at X PSI specs. Since it can be a big time waster to fill big rafts to just inflater PSI's the Makita would likely be a better choice for those.
This thing didn't cut it, had good volume, but not enough torque to get past the valves when closed. I bought the Ryobi inflator instead, and not any better:
Here's the description of what I have to inflate as we go over and come down from passes. ExpertPower 12V 12AH Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) || LW-6FM12S, LHR12-12, HR1251W, GPS12-12F2 and BP12-12 Replacement Battery Black EXP1212 Absorbent Glass Mat 1 Pack
I just got a tru gel battery for my motorcyle and I think it weighs 6 oz. May try that one later, but it's 4x the cost.
Year number three on a preowned Makita leaf blower that was compatible with my 18v Makita batteries I already owned.
Fills four outfitter style Vanguard Duckies and one RMR 11" cataraft on a single battery. Top off with my baby K Pump at fifteen strokes a chamber and the Duckies are good to go. The Cataraft at only 11' needs about 50 strokes or so with the small K Pump.
Pushes air through the valves without any extra steps and is fast enough to not be annoying. Deflation is fast as well, but for some reason i hardly ever do it. Just open the valves, start packing the rest of the gear and before you know it the duckies are near empty.
So without a lot of extra effort and at a reasonable level of expense for the convenience it brings, I too am happy enough with the Makita leaf blower.
I bought one of these airhead pumps9 years ago. Hook it up to my jump box and can do 2 rafts while carrying it around the boat. ( Exact same pump Aire sales for twice as much).
I second the Milwaukee Vacuum. After seeing how much crap gets blown into your raft with my Aire pontoons I chose the Vacuum instead of the blower. vacuum has a filter.
Lots of us use Milwaukee/Makita/Bosch/Dewalt mini blowers. Pick the model of battery you already have as they are pretty similar. Doesn’t get to boatable pressure, but at least fills the tubes.
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