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Old 05-10-2019   #21
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Guess you've never taken out at Biscuit Rock...
Isn't a water knot the same thing as an overhand on a bite?
No. No sir, they look similar but are different knots. This spring I used the Y method to lift my fully loaded Maravia onto my trailer as i took out of the Salt. Thanks Andy!

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No. No sir, they look similar but are different knots. This spring I used the Y method to lift my fully loaded Maravia onto my trailer as i took out of the Salt. Thanks Andy!

Cheers!
So by Y method, you mean setting it up like in the video? Water knots for the oar tower loops and then overhand on a bight in the center of the strap to create a loop where the winch hook attaches (bottom of the Y)? I'm assuming the bottom of your Y loop extends just barely out from the front of the raft?

Something like this? (Please excuse my crude drawing.)
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I use a HF tow strap with a beefy d ring mounted center on it for connection to my winch strap. Works like a charm. I have gotten a couple lookers come over at gas stations worried that my only connection to the trailer is the giant yellow strap running under my bow, it tends to catch attention better than the 1.5" straps at each corner for some reason.
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What do you do if you dont have a hole in the bow of your boat? Would love to do the strapping around the towers but the NRS Outlaw doesnt have holes in the front.
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What do you do if you dont have a hole in the bow of your boat? Would love to do the strapping around the towers but the NRS Outlaw doesnt have holes in the front.
Nothing goes through a hole in the bow of the boat. The straps from each oar tower connect UNDER the boat and then a single line runs to the winch. That Y point under the boat provides the needed uplift.
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Nothing goes through a hole in the bow of the boat. The straps from each oar tower connect UNDER the boat and then a single line runs to the winch. That Y point under the boat provides the needed uplift.



DUH! I astonish myself sometimes with my dumbassery. Thank you for clarifying
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Most of the time I can back my trailer completely underwater and float the boat right on and off, completely rigged.

It helps to have low profile tires on the trailer, and an extra long tongue. My trailer also has a tilt bed, which is handy when you have a steep drop. Having a good 4x4 is helpful too for primitive ramps, with high potential to get stuck.

When I have to winch, I connect to my grab line, which runs free through my D-rings so as to evenly distributing the weight to all the d-rings. I usually don't run a super heavy boat, so it's not pulling too hard.

I like the idea of the sling underneath connecting to the oarlocks though.
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Pine, I am so jealous, most of my put-in spots look similar to this....
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Pine, I am so jealous, most of my put-in spots look similar to this....
Ugh! I'e had to deal with a few of those over the years. Not very fun. The Payette system has terrible boat trailer access, but I've found a few stealth ramps that make it a little easier.

I'm thinking you need one of those cranes mounted in the bed of a truck like the utility companies use for that take out.
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Pine, I am so jealous, most of my put-in spots look similar to this....
You need a super long rope on your trailer winch if you take out here
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