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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #11
 
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Ended up buying an 11 pounder from Murdochs for $50 something bucks filled. Not a bad deal and definitely manageable weight and size wise. Definitely the cheapest place in the front range that stocks them. Called a few propane places and they all wanted $75-95 empty if they had them in stock.

Definitely a nice form factor and the 11 pounder isn't that much bigger then the 5 pound one. Obviously weighs more but still very manageable. This one will get primarily used with the power stove for an upcoming trip, so we'll see how she does. There will be other tanks on the trip so we should be fine.

Lady at AAA said the Aluminum ones she could get were super expensive. Most of the ones I see are being sold for Marine use and mostly on sail boats... and the feeling I get from stuff made for sailing is similar to stuff made for rafting but even more extreme....double or triple the price it should be. I think the cheapest aluminum one I saw online was just under $300 and they go up from there.

I think the major problem with the current breed of Composite/Fiberglass cylinders you can buy right now is they seem to make them in large batches every few years and most of the new ones you can purchase are a few years into their certification. They need a re-cert after 5 years from manufacture date and I suspect it might be hard to get them recertified at the normal places. Still...they are nice and light and I do like that you can see the level through the side. Seems like the problems that caused the recall of the Lite Composites ones have been solved too.

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Fiberglass propane tank

If it's weight that's a concern, I've been using a fiberglass propane tank for years and love it. It weighs hardly anything empty and doesn't have sharp edges like the steel can have. You can find it at https://smile.amazon.com/17lb-Capaci...0558832&sr=8-1.

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I think the major problem with the current breed of Composite/Fiberglass cylinders you can buy right now is they seem to make them in large batches every few years and most of the new ones you can purchase are a few years into their certification. They need a re-cert after 5 years from manufacture date and I suspect it might be hard to get them recertified at the normal places. Still...they are nice and light and I do like that you can see the level through the side. Seems like the problems that caused the recall of the Lite Composites ones have been solved too.
Viking provides a list of places that re-certify their tanks on their website.
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I mostly use it for my Woodland Power Stove....I suspect a 5 pounder might be enough for a 4-7 day trip but I'm not sure. Might have to do that. Looks like the 5 and 10 pounders are about a 9" around but the 5 is a foot tall and the 10 is about 17" tall. I go back and forth on whether the extra 5" of and a few extra pounds is worth worrying about whether it will run out before the end of the trip.
IMHO the 5" and +5# is worth it. I have two 10# cylinders and really like them. They're much easier to carry than a 20# tank.


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I have on occasion calculated propane usage on a lb/per person/per day basis since no one ever wants to run out of propane. These calculations assume that the tanks are fully filled and not partially filled as can sometimes be the case with trade-in tanks (?).

If I recall correctly, usage varies from 0.15-0.25 #/pp/pd across large, small, summer and winter trips, and with/without a blaster of some type.

On a 13-person 25-day Grand Canyon trip this past January, we used the upper value of ~0.25 #/pp/pd, which is probably a good max-usage value.

Assuming 0.25#/pp/pd, these are the approximate user days for different sized tanks.

20# - 80 user days
10# - 40 user days
5# - 20 user days

Take these values for what what they are - very approximate estimations.

We ran a 4-burner Partner and a blaster for 7 of 8 days on the Main Salmon with 15 people on a 20# tank, which would be about 105 user-days on 0.19#/pp/pd doing a lot of boil-in-bag meals.


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Yes GeoRon, these are "safe" and very conservative estimates. I prefer to come home with propane left in the tank(s).

Propane consumption is highly variable depending on group habits and weather. I did a 7-person 14-day Grand trip in April and didn't even burn through an 11# tank (98 user days).

I just wanted to throw out some rough generalized numbers.

Fascinating conversation.

I agree that group habits and cooking style makes a bigger difference than number of people. 20 people use more propane than 10, but not 2x as much. You almost always heat 2-3 chickies of water whether you have 5-7 in your group or 16-20, but if you're making pancakes, the stove is on 2x as long for 2x as many people.



Style of cooking makes a difference...lots of prep/cooking/frying, or just heat and eat?
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