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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #1
 
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Advice from aire raft owners on sizes

Iam looking to update my raft. I have a 14ft odeyssy (Chinese pvc) its been great and it was a prize we won in a raffle so even greaterier for free. Its about 12 years old and the family has grown by one kid and one dog and the other kids bigger too. We (I) want to do some intro whitewater desert stuff soon. Maybe desolation or ladore or oregon stuff. So maybe 4-6 day stuff and still do one day and fishing weekends around bozeman. Iam looking (used) at a 136dd and a 156r. My neighbor has a 16 foot boat and its alot bigger than my 14ft. But i worry about it being a pig for day stuff? We did a 4day 3 nite this year on flat water and it was a junk show of gear and bodies. Cant buy 2 boats cause i want other stuff more. Any body have a wife two kids and two dogs on board with a recommendation. I have dry boxes and all the cool storage /frame stuff but also will i eat my nrs frame with a 15 footer? Thanks charkie

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136DD will be too small the 156R is probably a good size to fit your stuff/crew and still be a reasonable size for smaller stuff. If you haven't already I'd suggest getting the gear together you need for a multi day and throw it on the boat you already have to get an idea of how much more space you need.

And don't eat your frame, the aluminum is really hard on teeth.

NRS does sell longer rails if you want your frame longer, you could probably cut down your old rails, add some low pros and have new cross bar(s) to add a bay.
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Yeah i went and looked at it . Minimum frame width is 66 . Mine is 64. His frame is 67. So i could re do cross bars or maybe do a double rail deal? Then id only have to do 2 bars new across and 2 bars long for double deal and i could use cross and side boards ect? So mine are 64 and ninimum is 66 . I looked at google "double rail"and the inner is shorter than usual right? Would that work? He wants 3500 for a 2013 and its nice. Huge but nice. Decent price right?
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As someone who owns and is trying to sell a 136DD... I would agree that it is too small. Maybe if it was just the wife, or just the kids or just the Dogs...but all of those together are gonna be tight.

Might be worth a look at the 160DD though. Main difference to the 156R is a bit longer, a bit more interior room but the tubes aren't as tall so it will be a wetter ride and it will feel like your gear and people are sitting on top of the raft instead of inside it.

Someone should really buy my 136DD though... its been up for sale all summer and no serious bites.
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I just bought a new 136DD 2 weeks ago ,they are wrapping up the custom frame this week. Just me and the wife so should be a perfect setup. Most of the people selling stuff that have trouble selling it is because they put an NRS frame on it or something cheap. if you buy nicer stuff in the beginning people snap it up when you go to sell it
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I just bought a new 136DD 2 weeks ago ,they are wrapping up the custom frame this week. Just me and the wife so should be a perfect setup. Most of the people selling stuff that have trouble selling it is because they put an NRS frame on it or something cheap. if you buy nicer stuff in the beginning people snap it up when you go to sell it
Thanks...I'm just selling the rubber so frames don't come into play here.
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Oh Ok, ya I paid 3945.00 for mine brand new on the Instagram flash sale, that's what most people are migrating to now so maybe its about 3K used value ?
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Ok....then add $400 for the sealed floor and my asking price of $3500 is reasonable.

You still never posted where you got this sale or who it is through.

I've had my boat as low as $3200 obo and no one has even come to look at it... very frustrating.
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Thanks...I'm just selling the rubber so frames don't come into play here.
This is a ENTITY sales pitch for sure.. I can see it coming from a mile away. The saga continues.
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But on subject a 136DD sounds too small for what you are trying to do.. I have a 156R and really like it.. It's not too sluggish on day trips which i do a lot of. Between the two that you listed and what you want to do I would go 156R over 136DD
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