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Old 04-14-2016   #1
 
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A cautionary tale on cat frames and toe bars.

This from a local catboater on a local facebook page:

"Public Safety Announcement: Just because they call it a toe bar on your rowing frame does not mean you should put your toes in it. I usually row with one foot under frame and one foot on top of frame.
Recently I screwed up and I am still paying the price. I was rusty from too little boating in recent months and I put my foot in the toe bar when I went over the boulder at Neds Needle in the Middle of Boulder Drop on the Skykomish River a month ago.

When the nose of the catboat was vertical and pencilled into the water, my body went horizontal as I was rowing. My left foot did not release from the toe bar until after my face was in the water and the toe bar fractured my foot where the toes attach. I kept hoping it was a sprain but it is broken.
The surgery will involve screws, wires, and hardware that will make airports more interesting and make me miss the rest of Spring and early Summer rafting this year."

This is the second broken foot I have heard of in similar circumstances. The other was toes getting caught between the parallel bars of a PRE-style frame.

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Man thats terrible! Hope it turns out well for you. Sucks missing a season I feel your pain having had a long recovery myself from a bike accident. Thanks for sharing.

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Boating comes with risks. Really sad for that guy though, ouch!

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What is a PRE style frame. Any chance you can get us pics or links to pics of his frame? Thanks for the info and the reminder.
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What is a PRE style frame. Any chance you can get us pics or links to pics of his frame? Thanks for the info and the reminder.
Payette river equipment. Every cat frame has a footbar that will fracture/break your foot.
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Fractured my right foot with a front flip over a ledge. One of the many reasons I switched to pins and clips. If your only brace point is two feet sandwiched between bars this is bound to happen.
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I rowed a DRL frame at the Upper clack fest last year, that was the first thing I noted was the toe bar could easily cost me a broken foot. I have ungainly feet to begin with (16 EEEE) so the toe slot seemed tight to me. I'd prefer something I can come out of easier if I endered.
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I know of a couple torn knee ligaments from the same style of kick bar
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Payette river equipment. Every cat frame has a footbar that will fracture/break your foot.
This is one of the reasons I am wild about my madcatr frame. His toe loops are made to release the foot, it is a sweet design. Difficult to replicate. Surely it is not perfect, as anything can happen.

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Fractured my right foot with a front flip over a ledge. One of the many reasons I switched to pins and clips. If your only brace point is two feet sandwiched between bars this is bound to happen.
Just curious how open oar locks (assumption on my part) led to broken foot and the switch to pins and clips?
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