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Old 05-31-2018   #1
 
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16DD or 156R for oar rig.

I’m trying to decide between it 156 R and a 66DD. This will be the new family truckster, myself, wife, and two kids “Very small”. Right now I’m in a 16’ AIRE lion so either will be an upgrade for hauling the family. This will be used exclusively as an oar rig. I mainly run the main middle fork and snake rivers. Any thoughts on which one you would go with. Before they redesigned the 16DD they seemed like very different boats, but now they are sized very similar.

I tried putting some numbers down hoping that would help. I like the depth below the frame in the 156. I also think I would like the added length of the frame on a 156 for a small 5th bay. I may get that out of the 16dd as I am pretty short and my captain’s bay does not take up much space. The shorter water line on the 16dd seems like it would be more nimble. I have a hard time believing the 16DD actually carries more weight than the 156R, as that weight limit was from when the 16DD was 4 inches wider than it is now. It is now one inch narrower than the 156R, has smaller side tubes and has a shorter water line. I am usually one of the gear boats and am a bit of a gear nut. Which one is the better load carrier as well as family rig. The front of the 16DD seems like it would be roomier but I don’t think my wife would like how easily the waves break over the front. The back seems like there is more space for gear but it is not as deep. Is there really a substantial difference in room in the front or back between the two?

I tried going to the Aire factory store last weekend to see them side by side but they didn’t have any on the floor and none in production in the back at the time, so that was no help.


16DD 156R Winner
Length 16’1” 15’9” wash
Total Width 7’ 7’1” wash
Inside width 42” 41” wash
Tube diameter 21” 22” 156
Depth to floor 12” 14” 156
Depth end Chafe strip 9.5” 12” 156
Frame length 84.5” 92.5” 156
Waterline 114” 130” 16
Weight limit 2320 2240 16

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Id rather have the R for a gear boat. Another thing to consider about the DD is diminished tube boats are usually a wetter ride. Not always best when running a gear boat and or small children.
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I don't get the 160dd as a gear boat, it seems that you give up dimensions everywhere with little to gain. I really doubt it would feel anymore agile once loaded.

I had the 156d and liked it but in hindsight would have rather had the R. The 156 was harder to rig as it's ends came together so soon and it was shallow at the ends of the frame for boxes.


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I weighed the same decision and settled on the 156R. I'm very happy with my decision and so is my wife who does not want to get splashed. And there's lots of room up front.
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I went with the 156R and did a small fifth bay in the rear that hold the groover.
Hauls a lot of gear and I can fit 3 adults up front if need be.
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I went with the 156R and did a small fifth bay in the rear that hold the groover.
Hauls a lot of gear and I can fit 3 adults up front if need be.
Me too. Love that fifth bay!
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+1 on the fifth bay for the groover, with the sling from Cascade! I love my 156R, fun for a couple of weeks, or just a quick day trip.
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I use a DRE drop bag and a couple of loop straps in my fifth bay for the groovers. My friend has the Cascade one and it doesn't work as well as having the hangers on the ends for a long bag like that, IMO. Maybe better on other frames though.
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156R. The extra depth to floor is the biggest advantage in my books.
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I have been super happy with my 156R as a gear boat. As others have stated, the extra 2" in depth on the inside is a big deal. The 160DD is a spectacular BIG paddle boat, but really comes up short as a gear hauler IMO.
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