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Old 09-16-2015   #1
 
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Westwater Canyon video

Hey guys, my first post here. Just wanted to share our Westwater Canyon video from this past weekend. This was my first time on the Colorado and my first time guiding class IV in an oar frame. Super clean and super fun.


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Great video of WW. Shows a little of everything on that trip. Nice job.
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Great video, thanks for sharing.
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Nice vid, class IV?
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awesome video great shots but not class 4 but still....
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Nice vid, class IV?

Can't believe it took nine hours for that comment... I was waiting for it!


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awesome video great shots but not class 4 but still....
Thanks for the compliments guys...

I'm gonna just go ahead and state the obvious here that skull, sock-it-to-me are most certainly class IV rapids at 3500 and higher... (which we most certainly were in) and while Funnel Falls and Last Chance are in the much higher end of III at this flow, above 6g that's certinaly a class IV rapid as well. So, HUGE DIFFERENCE between me saying this is my first time running class IV in an oar frame (it was) and that somehow being interpreted as me saying the entire river is class IV (I definitely didn't).
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And if for some reason anyone disagrees that skull and sock-it-to-me are IV's at those flows, feel free to check the American Whitewater class IV benchmark page here:

On a side-note, these benchmark lists are great for solving those little spats about whether or not a rapid changes classes at certain flows. This doesn't have every rapid obviously, but it has a lot of the major ones on major rivers.

American Whitewater - safety:class4benchmarkrapids
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It doesn't really matter, but except at runoff flows, nothing on Westy is a IV

I love Westwater; have run it many times, at many flows, but no

No offense intended. That's my opinion, and I think the prevailing opinion
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None taken I hear what you're saying. But at runoff flows (I'm assuming you're talking "terrible teens") wouldn't you call that closer to a V? It's always been my understanding that the class of a rapid is based far more off the consequences of a swim than the difficulty of the line. I've worked plenty class III and IV rivers commercially as a paddle boat guide (south and middle fork American and amimas), and I've swam some pretty gnarly V's as a paddler (rososcoes canyon north yuba, two flips in one run, one of them through big dummy). At the very least I would skull firmly in the IV rating at this flow (4600cfs). I would not want to swim that river right wave train into the large hydraulic created by skull rock. That thing looked like it would absolutely murder you, especially when we know what's right under it.
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