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Old 03-12-2019   #41
 
Fort Collins, Colorado
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Yesterday at 8PM MST I saw 1 August 16 cancelation .....
Seriously? Damn.... missed that one.

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Old 03-12-2019   #42
 
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Another one against follow up lotteries. People who really want to go get on the river with the current system. Good luck with follow up lotteries. We'll just see more posts like we already have seen this year "I just decided to put in and won a permit, I have no idea about anything..." Trips will go unused.

At some point they need to make them available to the public on first come first served basis. That's what I don't like about the Grand. It happens all the time where they release cancelled permits with only 1-2 weeks out from launch. Not many can pull that trip off.
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Old 03-12-2019   #43
 
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I checked several times yesterday and oddly, there was nothing posted early like they said there would be. After 3pm, I missed out on 2 cancellations by what I am sure was only seconds. Checked again at 10:30pm, right before bed and there was another posted.
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Old 03-12-2019   #44
 
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Just released the Sept 7th main and picked up an Aug 27th main
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Old 03-12-2019   #45
 
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August 22nd Yampa available right now
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Old 05-02-2019   #46
 
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Does rec.gov site still worked for cancelled permits or is it broken? Lodore and Yampa shows nothing available until November 10th........ really?
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Old 05-02-2019   #47
 
Oakland, Maryland
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2 Weeks ago I booked a June Gates of Lodore permit that had been cancelled. Really waste a lot of time hoping for a cancellation date to show up at random 24 hours after being cancelled (24 hours from when who knows - it showed up at 2 pm on a Saturday) but it did work. Have to be random to get random I guess.
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Old 05-13-2019   #48
 
Fort Collins, Colorado
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2 Weeks ago I booked a June Gates of Lodore permit that had been cancelled. Really waste a lot of time hoping for a cancellation date to show up at random 24 hours after being cancelled (24 hours from when who knows - it showed up at 2 pm on a Saturday) but it did work. Have to be random to get random I guess.
How does one submit feedback on the practicality of Recreation.gov's cancellation system? Something has to change... How in the heck is someone supposed to just sit in front of a computer ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT waiting for a cancelled permit to pop? Just doesn't make sense. Its "fair"... I get that... But they need to work out a more practical system.
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Old 05-13-2019   #49
 
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Another one against follow up lotteries. People who really want to go get on the river with the current system. Good luck with follow up lotteries. We'll just see more posts like we already have seen this year "I just decided to put in and won a permit, I have no idea about anything..." Trips will go unused.

At some point they need to make them available to the public on first come first served basis. That's what I don't like about the Grand. It happens all the time where they release cancelled permits with only 1-2 weeks out from launch. Not many can pull that trip off.

That is true for some people. However, the current system does not allow someone who really wants to get on the river, but does not have the time due to work and other obligations, to spend huge amounts of time on their computer.......................
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Old 5 Days Ago   #50
 
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Just received the follow up lottery email from the Grand Canyon. This is why I don't want or like follow up lotteries. They have a small trip July 10 up for grabs...but you won't know until the 12th if you get it. REALLY! Give me a break, that system is definitely not working! On the bright side I bet the odds are good you draw it. Copy of the first 1/2 of the email below.

We have just opened a follow-up lottery for 2019 launch dates at the weighted lottery website (https://grcariverpermits.nps.gov). The lottery will accept applications until Fri, July 12, 2019 at 12:00 PM (noon) Mountain Standard Time. The available launch dates are:

Standard Size Trips (1 - 16 people):
August 2019: 6, 13, 26, 27, 30
September 2019: 6, 8, 26, 28
October 2019: 5, 18, 22
November 2019: 28
December 2019: 2, 16, 25


Small Size Trips (1 - 8 people):
July 2019: 10
August 2019: 3, 29
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