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Old 3 Days Ago   #1
 
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Newbie needs advice on 13 ft tributary or superpuma...

I need some advice on experience from those who know. I am looking at getting a raft to fish out of and ride some class II-IV out of. I have a family of 6. 3 teenagers and an 8 yr old caboose. We love the water, fishing and floating...although don't float a lot because we live in a desert.


I'm looking at something that we could paddle 6 people with, then put on a fishing frame and take a group of 3, maybe 4 fishing.


My experience is minimal, but have ran rafts and kayaks down class II,III and some IV... I also have floated the green river south of flaming gorge for a fishing trip a few times. My kids have never done it...and its time to get them out there.


I am looking at two rafts, Aire Tributary 13 HD, or the AIRE Super Puma 13 ft. I have read about both of them...the tributary is wider and fits 6 people better than the super puma. The super puma is more agile, lighter, but narrower. I will primarily be running the raft on the Snake River North of Jackson Hole, WY, and south of it, The green River Utah side below Flaming Gorge, Snake River on the Idaho side near Lewiston/idaho falls south fork, etc.


Those of you who have used these boats or been on them, what would you advise? Is there other alternatives that you would recommend? My budget is somewhere near $3K. I currently can buy a 2016 super puma with the NRS Fishing frame, seats, casting platform for $2500...is that a good buy? Boats in good condition, no patches, or deep scratches, etc. But I wonder about the narrow width when I put my family of 6 in there to raft these rivers...is it too narrow? I watched a few youtubes and it looked like the super puma was roomy enough for 4-5 people, but 6 was not so good, but those videos were on water in Washington and narrow rivers with drops...I won't be doing stuff like that. Would I be better to look around for a tributary or something a bit wider for room?


Thanks in advance.

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Yup a Super Puma is narrow. An awesome boat for technical runs. I have a 2013 Super Puma, many fond memories....

For the rivers you listed and a growing family, the wider Tributary is probably the better way to go in my opinion... but if y’all aren’t that fat or big boned a super puma is a blast.
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Some more photos for ya. Ohh a Tributary will wheelie like a standard 13foot raft (see photo of the blue Otter). a Super Puma is tough to wheelie.
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Thanks for the reply and especially the pics...I haven't seem many pics of 6 people in the boat, but that dosen't look too bad...tad bit crowded, but not too much...we are a leanish family...I'm 210lbs 6'0 and I tell my wife theirs a sweet six pack hidden behind my gut just for her! We're a pretty athletic group and stay active. It looks like my family would certainly fit in this fine for the next few years while we find out if we really like this....I think the kids will love it...I already do, but they've never been exposed to it. I've never seen a raft wheelie like that...would that happen on those rivers I listed, or is it more of a problem on the rivers that have drops off boulders/cliffs, etc?
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Hey ronedog,
Trib 13 owner here.


If you primarily want to run with the whole fam, I'd recommend a Trib 14 (or other similar 14' raft). 13' is awesome for 4 regularly, 6 occasionally, and 8 rarely (did it 3 weeks ago on the Lochsa and it was a blast). If you're out for frequent day runs on wider rivers, you'll add more creature comforts and will need more space.

Small, technical, busy rivers tend to allow you to add less gear so you stay fast and light.


The SP has a narrower bow, which means people tend to sit farther back and can make it feel more crowded if you're cruising. The Trib has a big, round bow (allowing for the wheelies) and more hang-out space. No, wheelies are a function of really loading up the rear tube and then using hydraulics or a bow line to pull the bow out of the water. So much fun...do it on a lake and then you'll be comfortable should you ever flip on a river.

I'd agree with the FlyingDutchman...for the rivers you listed and a growing family, go Trib 13 or 14. My Trib 13 is the 2nd boat in my quiver for a family of 4. Big boat is a 156R.
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I'll second the 14' tributary recommendation. I have had one for the last 12 years or so. I raised two kids on day floats with their friends and overnight family camping trips. . It has been a great boat for that use.

A DRE modular fishing frame - front and rear hoops - allows me to get in many fishing days.

The super puma is pretty small for your use description. The 13' trib would probably work fine, maybe a little tight for your family when they want to add a friend or two. The 14' is a great family boat, larger than necessary for day fishing.
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I'll second the 14' tributary recommendation.



The 14' is a great family boat, larger than necessary for day fishing.



...but not so large as to be unwieldy.


We started with a 16' Maravia and then the 156R for a family of four. They were both too big for our family for day runs. Got the 13.0 Trib for daytime family trips.
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Agreed, the 14' handles fine as a fishing rig.
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I have a Super Puma and absolutely love it, probably the funnest boat I own. However, I agree with the others, I'd recommend a 14ft Trib for what you described.
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Ditto go with the 13 or 14 Tributary.
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