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Going to put in for a permit for an Idaho River for this summer (Salmon, Lochsa, etc) and it will be first river trip there. Leaving from Golden, CO . Any tips on what is best choice? Considering which will be most likely permit to score v which is easiest travel, what river is best, etc.

I've done class IV only a couple times but friends that have been there so it's not too bad on most of the Salmon runs.

Thanks for any input

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No permit needed for the Lochsa.

What type boat? Kayak, raft or cat?

Day trips or multiday?
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Considering which will be most likely permit to score...

So I checked the Salmon Challis website and I was surprised to see that for the last four years the number of permits awarded for the 4 rivers lottery were as follows...

MFS: 387
MS: 310
Selway: 62
Snake: 324

I had always thought that the MS awarded the most permits??

In any event, looks like the MFS awards the most private permits and thus the better chance of getting the permit...
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So I checked the Salmon Challis website and I was surprised to see that for the last four years the number of permits awarded for the 4 rivers lottery were as follows...

MFS: 387
MS: 310
Selway: 62
Snake: 324

I had always thought that the MS awarded the most permits??

In any event, looks like the MFS awards the most private permits and thus the better chance of getting the permit...
You need to look at the number of applicants too. On some days there are 500 to 600 applicants for two or three permits.
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number of applicants...

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Yeah, I figured there might be more applicants but the website didn't break down the number of applicants by river...only the total number of applicants for all the rivers. Not sure where this data is located...

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http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5408633.pdf

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5409043.pdf
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4 Rivers Lottery application statistics...

Ok
Not to Hijack this thread too much but I found what I was looking for under the 4 Rivers Lottery application statistics...

Total number of applicants by river (2013)...
MFS: 9847
MS: 6312
Selway: 2933
Snake: 1939

Comparing these to the number of launches allowed per day and the total number of permit days, you get an idea of which permit you have the best chance to get...
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Had to look for the links and Wadein beat me to it. If you really want to go, early and late can almost guarantee success. And/or flips, sticks, pins, rocks...well you get the idea.
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Going to put in for a permit for an Idaho River for this summer (Salmon, Lochsa, etc) and it will be first river trip there. Leaving from Golden, CO . Any tips on what is best choice? Considering which will be most likely permit to score v which is easiest travel, what river is best, etc.

I've done class IV only a couple times but friends that have been there so it's not too bad on most of the Salmon runs.

Thanks for any input
I have a whole pocket full of lochsa permits. Just pm me and I'll give you. But don't say I never did anything for you!

Odds of a victory

hells canyon snake river is the easiest, then main salmon, and the MFS/selway is a toss up. Selway usually a bit more difficult.

The good news is that you get to put in for 4 choices on each river.
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Permit season for the main starts about 3 weeks after the MF too. So in a given week I think there are more on the Main.
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