Hi all, Just so folks know what the Grand Canyon Private Boaters Association President thinks about membership opinions....
Was I bragging? Far from it...
First I was told "we want to know what you think" and after speaking up, I am told " I have trouble paying much attention to how you think we should look at things".
And So It Goes... yours, tom martin
From: Wally Rist [mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 6:23 PM
To: Tom Martin & Hazel Clark
Subject: Your attempted post
As moderator I am not going to allow the post you just attempted.
It is not being posted for the same reason you are on moderation, which is the use of our list to attempt to discredit GCPBA by posting repeatedly
untrue accusations.. Besides not being true, its a dead issue. Most of us
have moved on. I suggest you do as well.
If you are so dissatisfied with GCPBA why do you brag that you are a lifetime member.?
As far the rest of your comments, they are full of your opinions. We are not interested in your interpretation of wilderness, equitable access, etc. We are interested in what is important to our members and think we have made a good first step here. You apparently ignored the part about follow up questionnaires about the most pressing issues.
While you referenced our mission statement you apparently skipped over the poll introduction which reiterates our dedication to it.
You are not on the GCPBA board so I have trouble paying much attention to how you think we should look at things. You are only one tiny singular voice out of many.
I am sorry the world is not run as you think it should be.
From: Tom Martin [mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:49 PM
To: '[email protected]
Subject: RE: [gcpba] GCPBA wants your opinion......A Poll
Hi Wally, thank you so much for posting a poll about future GCPBA direction.
As a lifetime member of the GCPBA, I wanted you to know, the first 4 issues you should think about addressing are not listed on the poll. They include:
1) Should the GCPBA participate in another "Firewalk" meeting with the River Concessionaires Trade Association, The Commercial Motorboat Passengers Association, and American Whitewater, without letting the GCPBA membership know?
As you are well aware, the GCPBA signed a ten year Memorandum of Understanding with the River Concessionaires. The agreement is posted here:
The membership found out about the agreement a year after it was signed, and not by an announcement from the GCPBA board. The GCPBA is still under the obligations of this agreement until the 26 day of January, 2015.
So issue number one will be to come clean with your membership. Does the GCPBA Board plan to repeat the above action again?
2) Wilderness. Not mentioned once in the 9 available survey options, wilderness protection for the Colorado River in Grand Canyon, and the Greater Grand Canyon, you would think, would rank somewhere on the list of issues to deal with. Wilderness means checks on commercialization and the spectrum of commercial concessionaire services, and wilderness means equitable access.
3) Equitable Access vs. More access. The survey notes "More access for private river runners, summer, winter, shoulder seasons, or over all." The question is not More. What if the river cannot handle More access? The question is about "timely" and "equitable" access. Neither are listed as issues of importance, but they are a part of the GCPBA mission statement. A whole host of river runners play and lose the lottery, year after year, while concessions passengers pay and go, year after year. And no one seems to mind that concessions passengers seem to be doing more than one river trip a year. That is neither "timely" nor "equitable" yet it is not listed as an issue.
4) Everything else. All the issues listed, including "other" and the issues just around the corner we are not yet aware of, are important. They all will need organizational advocacy. It's a big job.
There you have it, thanks for asking. Yours, Tom