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Old 09-23-2012   #1
 
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Fastest you can self support the Grand in the winter

What is the fastest reasonable time you can self support kayak the grand canyon in the winter. I have a Liquid Logic Stinger, and would be taking that, but will most likely be with guys in remixes. Just trying to get an idea. A few real answers, and this thread can die.

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First off you can only go as fast as your group, bringing a stinger isn't going to do you anything!!! Second off its the grand. Something that should probably be enjoyed! Not rushed.
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Noted..... Anyway I don't have three weeks to take off of work to kayak. So I would like to get through it in a reasonable time frame. The Stinger will be nice for flat water none the less.
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I would take a kayak that has surf potential and a raft and go for two weeks... Take what you want but there's some killer waves in there I hear.
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The LL boyze did it in 12 days. That's a lot of food to carry.

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The real answer is how many hours a day do you want to/are willing to travel. The current moves about 4 miles an hour (depending on flow). If you paddle a bit and average 5 mph and takeout at diamond creek (225 miles) you need 45 hours of time spent moving downstream. Mid winter there is about 9 hours of daylight. If you get up before sunrise, and are ready to hit the water shortly after dawn, take minimal breaks and paddle till near sunset, you could get 8 hours of downstream travel a day or about 40 miles a day. At that pace it would only take 6 days. A more reasonable schedule of six hours of downstream travel daily (30 miles) would get through the canyon in 8 days.

Really the answer is what type of a trip do you want, what hikes do you want to do, and how much time will you devote to downstream travel each day.
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Don't really care about the hikes. I know I will get my ass reamed for that comment, but I am not that big of a hiker. I will save that trip for when I have more time, and raft support. Any way Jeff West did it in 5 days in a long boat. So I am thinking 8 Days is reasonable for me. I have a buddy with a permit that has done it a few times that may be down for bombing it. He also has a Stinger. any my question has been answered.
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It seems to me that the more recent LL trips were more like 8 or 9 days.
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You know, I heard this rumor about a dude back in the say that did a solo run in 49 hours, fueled by mostly ramen.

Aren't there some rules on the permit, where you can't do it in less than a certain amount of time?
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I believe Fletcher Anderson's total time was 48 hrs, not that you'd call that "reasonable".

Averaging around 30 miles a day it's going to require 7 - 8 days.
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