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Old 06-05-2015   #1
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Desolation hardest level

I know Deso is a class 3, but I am curious from your personal experience, what level would you consider Deso to be the hardest?

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Old 06-05-2015   #2
 
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1200 with a week long upstream wind and no motor

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Old 06-05-2015   #3
 
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I did 8 days at 750 cfs in '02. Not fun.

Worst wind was in '09, the tammies were being blown flat in Upper Gray Canyon.

Seems to me, not to complicate an otherwise reasonable poll, factoring in the wind conditions is a must.
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Old 06-05-2015   #4
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I guess I didn't mean the wind but the hardness of the rapid. Since Deso is famous for rookie boaters and a river to learn on, I thought which level Joe Hatch and Coal creek become the worst.

I've ran low and I've ran high, but I don't think I've ever done low teens. I've heard from some one else that low teens were the toughest in the rapids, so I just wanted to make it Buzz official

Wind on Deso blows, no motor no Deso for me anymore.
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I guess I didn't mean the wind but the hardness of the rapid. Since Deso is famous for rookie boaters and a river to learn on, I thought which level Joe Hatch and Coal creek become the worst.

I've ran low and I've ran high, but I don't think I've ever done low teens. I've heard from some one else that low teens were the toughest in the rapids, so I just wanted to make it Buzz official

Wind on Deso blows, no motor no Deso for me anymore.
I definitely consider myself a rookie boater, and I managed to flip a little 8 foot cat in the hole in Joe Hutch at the end of April, at about 4800. There are a couple of other buzzards who can confirm, and there's rumored to be a video floating around somewhere...
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I actually think at lower water Three Fords becomes the biggest rapid of the trip. Joe seems to have mellowed out and Coal has such an obvious clean line at low levels. 3 Fords has a few sneaky laterals that can spin and flip folks unexpectedly.

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I actually think at lower water Three Fords becomes the biggest rapid of the trip. Joe seems to have mellowed out and Coal has such an obvious clean line at low levels. 3 Fords has a few sneaky laterals that can spin and flip folks unexpectedly.

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I agree. I haven't done Deso since Joe Hutch blew out - it was a nice but inconsequential drop before then - but I've always considered Three Fords Deso's most significant breaking water.

As for motors - honestly can say 12 trips down, never once motorized.
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Just got off on the 1st. Launched at 15000cfs and took off at 13000. The holes in Joe Hutch were very big. One high right of the tongue and one low left. 3 fords was a blast but very straight forward with a couple medium holes. Coal Creek on the otherhand was meaty as hell. The line was center right with 2 huge holes to thread in between. I thought it was the most knarly at these levels. Class three, uh yah. Beginers trip? Not at this level. Too little margin for error and 49 degree water with some long swim potential.

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I knew what you meant but still couldn't help joking about the low water windy trips, those were really the hardest I've done.

Mid teens are probably the highest I've run it. Fun level but yeah probably not for a total newb.

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I did Deso at 30-40k in 2011 and Joe Hatch was huge. I was an inexperienced rafter and the experienced rafter in my boat called it class IV. We were in a big ole bucket boat with oars and used paddle assist. Other rapids were big but washed out.
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