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Old 04-03-2008   #1
 
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Class V rafting gear

There was a post a couple of days ago about a paddling life article on Mark, but I can't' find it now. Here is the link:

Paddling Life magazine -- for Paddling, Sea Kayaking, Whitewater Rafting, Kayaking, Canoeing, Kayak Fishing, Outrigger Canoe, Rec Boats and Touring, plus boating Blogs, Photos and News Clearinghouse.

A few things I though were interesting:

He has grab straps that trail freely in the water on the front/back of his tubes.

He runs pins and clips, not oarlocks. I know this gets debated a lot, but for serious whitewater the reduced time to remount a oar with pins and clips seems like the most important factor. And you can do it with one hand on the oar handle, I usually have to use two hands with open oar locks to get the oar back in if it gets out of the lock.

He carries a spare air scuba tank in his life jacket, but how does he deploy/use it? Spare air makes a model that mounts into a neoprene vest, but it is lower capacity than the one the article mentions. Seems like a decent way to reduce flush drowning possibilities.

He mentions the Aire Wave Destroyer, but all the photos look like a Sotar cat. And the Wave Destroyer isn't even listed on Aire's website anymore?

Climbing cams, ie Friends. I have never thought of using cams in this way, but in a gorged out section this could be really slick. Most people won't ever need them, but a cool use anyway. Friend (climbing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The slingshot was a surprise, how hard is it to kill a rabbit or a squirrel with one of those? I would have thought that emergency food rations would be easier and much more of a sure thing.

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Hey Sean, your wikipedia link to "friends" didn't work and since I don't have any, I didn't know what they were.

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Hey Sean, your wikipedia link to "friends" didn't work and since I don't have any, I didn't know what they were.

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LOL.

It is a spring loaded camming device. Maybe this link will work:
Spring-loaded camming device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Otherwise try this:

Camalot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did the original post get moved?
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Did the original post get moved?
Not sure. I hadn't heard the term friend before and thought maybe it was some special kind of cam.
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If you want to run class V more safely, just get a creek boat.

On a more serious note, seems like the main benefit of a pins and clips set up comes from the plastic retainer loop or oar keeper that most p&c rigs have. Any reason that wouldn't be compatible with oar locks? They are pretty easy to make out of old kayaks too. I might look at making a set. Seems like it should work well.
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Not sure. I hadn't heard the term friend before and thought maybe it was some special kind of cam.
It looks like a TCU to me...
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Raftus: Good questions. I'll PM you Cramer's email.

As for the Wave Destroyer, they are available via special order:

AIRE | Wave Destroyer 14 Cataraft

AIRE | Wave Destroyer 15.5 Cataraft

The prices are $1999.00 for the WD 14 and $2199.00 for the WD 15.5.
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I think if you're relying on a slingshot for your in a pinch food source you're going to be a hungry indian. I've killed grouse with a wrist rocket before, but there's a whole lot of luck involved, and probably not a very good bet in an "in a pinch" type of situation. And as far as oars go, I think if someone made a regular sleeve and lock set up but had ovalized grips on the oar (like the ones on my AT2 would do) so you could tell where your blades are, it would make everything else obsolete.
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"friends" didn't work and since I don't have any, I didn't know what they were.

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the term "friends" comes from the company wild country, which calls some of their cams (all of them?) friends. they were some of the first, and you used to see alot of the solid stem friends. These days, much more common is the flexible kind from Black Diamond, Aliens, and even wild country now makes flexible "friends"...

anyways, just a brand name cam...(like BD's camolots).

hungry indian...i am laughing!
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Does anyone else trail grab straps? I think webbing is less likely to snag than rope. I always trail a few feet behind the ducky so I don't lose it. I think I'm going to start doing it with the raft....
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