Aire R vs DD raft design - Page 2 - Mountain Buzz
 



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #11
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 12
I have a 156R; it is 25 years old but I guess it is similar to modern versions of the same name. I have 9 foot oars (bought it used this Spring, that is what it came with). Definitely get at least 10 foot oars.

gdaut is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #12
 
Boise, Idaho
Paddling Since: 2005
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norcalcoastie View Post
I found the other older thread - thanks! Lots of good information there but certainly appreciate everyone’s thoughts. Leaning heavy on the R. Everyone use 9.5 or 10’ oars? Or is it another item that doesn’t make a huge difference?

I guess I’m just trying to not recreate my current situation. I often feel like my current 14’ outlaw is such a pig to maneuver. No flips or scary situations really, but sometimes it just doesn’t go where I want it too. Rowing other folks nice rafts has been eye opening. Cant wait for my daughter to row! She’s a little small, but likes getting on the oars

Remember that the 156R (My main boat is one as well, I have had it for about 6 years) is a bit narrower than 16' Avons or Maravias. I have always used 10' oars on mine and wouldn't want them to be any longer than that. If you like your hands to be fairly far apart you could probably get away with 9.5' oars, but I haven't rowed with any. Any boat is gonna be somewhat piggish when heavily loaded. I have the standard floor, but have rowed aire boats with a sealed pocket and I can corroborate that it makes a difference. If my floor ever wears out I will be gettin a sealed floor.
Grifgav is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #13
 
MT4Runner's Avatar
 
Kalispell, Montana
Paddling Since: 1997
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,550
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grifgav View Post
Remember that the 156R (My main boat is one as well, I have had it for about 6 years) is a bit narrower than 16' Avons or Maravias. I have always used 10' oars on mine and wouldn't want them to be any longer than that. If you like your hands to be fairly far apart you could probably get away with 9.5' oars, but I haven't rowed with any. Any boat is gonna be somewhat piggish when heavily loaded. I have the standard floor, but have rowed aire boats with a sealed pocket and I can corroborate that it makes a difference. If my floor ever wears out I will be gettin a sealed floor.
I agree.

I use my 9.5' oars with a stern frame, but they're too short for my double-rail 4-bay frame and for the boat. 10' are IMHO ideal for this boat.

Also agree on the SPF. The 156R is not nimble with the ballast floor (for either multidays or with 7-8 people as a paddle boat), but if you get on the right line, it definitely pulls you through the manky spots.
MT4Runner is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #14
My name isn't Will
 
Will Amette's Avatar
 
Willamette Valley, Oregon
Paddling Since: 1997
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norcalcoastie View Post
I found the other older thread - thanks! Lots of good information there but certainly appreciate everyones thoughts. Leaning heavy on the R. Everyone use 9.5 or 10 oars? Or is it another item that doesnt make a huge difference?

My NRS E-150 is a completely different animal, but just about exactly the same width. I use 9.5' oars. They work fine, though I'm curious what an extra half foot might do for (or against) my enjoyment.
__________________
My name isn't actually Will.
I live in the Willamette Valley about a half mile from the Willamette River.
Will Amette is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #15
 
MT4Runner's Avatar
 
Kalispell, Montana
Paddling Since: 1997
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,550
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Amette View Post
My NRS E-150 is a completely different animal, but just about exactly the same width. I use 9.5' oars. They work fine, though I'm curious what an extra half foot might do for (or against) my enjoyment.
If it works, don't change it!

A lot depends on your height, arm length, rowing style, frame width, oarlock height, seat height, oar type/balance, etc.
MT4Runner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #16
 
Boise, Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 52
I use 9.5' oars on my 156R. Feels perfect for me. Any longer and I think the leverage would be working against me.
IDriverRunner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #17
 
Jamestown, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1993
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 6
156R, with outfitter blades

Great boat in 800 cfs on the Arkansas, and I've also had the 156R on Cataract, in way bigger water than the Grand. Tube diameter matters, in my opinion. Ran with only 10 foot oars but with Carlisle outfitter blades. The blade size makes a huge difference. Open oar locks of course. Floor design is also critical. Trim the load if you're heading into big water.
StyleChief is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #18
Tonic & Lime
 
Idaho Falls, Idaho
Paddling Since: 2018
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 9
160DD

I have a 160DD.
Hells canyon this year we had three 160DD's one 156R one 176R and a 14' NRS

The 160DD's can carry just as much (or more) than the 156R. I have 10' oars with outfitter blades and feel like the boat is more maneuverable than any of the R boats. There has been talk of it being a wetter ride because it has lower tubes. I didnt see any difference because of the taller bow and stearn rise.
R boats have 2" taller tubes and a 11" rise. DD boats have a 15" rise.

In high winds all of us struggled to buck the upstream wind. (Salmon river above challis)

The biggest difference I see is the lower tube height in relation to the floor prevents the Dry Box from sitting on the frame without touching the floor. I added some on inch blocks to the tabs to lift the Box off the floor.

My cooler also sticks up higher out of the boat but does not cause me any problems.
t_woodling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #19
 
Norcalcoastie's Avatar
 
Bend, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2011
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 14
All good stuff yall! Im going to order mine through Dustys River Logistics with a frame package. Biggest battle Im having now is settling on a color with my wife. I certainly appreciate the comments!
Norcalcoastie is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 3 Weeks Ago   #20
 
FlyingDutchman's Avatar
 
Hampden, Massachusetts
Paddling Since: 1999
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 347
Avoid the dark colors. I have a forest green Aire and it gets too hot in the sun for my liking
FlyingDutchman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Tags
aire

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Classified Ads
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.