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USGS Grand Ronde @ Troy Gauge cut

The gauge page sez:

The Discharge record at this location will be discontinued on Oct. 1, 2019. If you would like to partner with USGS to continue operation of this station, please contact the USGS by using the "Feedback on this web site" link located at the bottom of this page.

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Old 4 Days Ago   #2
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Unfortunately the only Twitters that seem to manner come from our scumbag president. Regarding sites in the USGS Streamgauge network, it's as much a staffing issue as a logistical/funding one...and his insidious political cronies appointed across DOI are largely responsible. Through both unsavory, swamp-like environment causing a mass exodus of career personal and then nobody replacing them through a virtual hiring freeze. We're in the midst of largest loss of institutional scientific knowledge and expertise in the history of the U.S. Gov.

Many Hydrologist jobs with the USGS have remained purposely unfilled yet keep being posted/re-posted to USAJOBS since even qualified applicants never gets through the firewall created by HR.

We now live in an era where even something as important as a hurricane forecast can be corrupted by a complete idiot with a sharpie, then baselessly defended as accurate by anonymous agency PR reps meanwhile the actual experts are threatened to keep quiet by admin goons. This sure made the Gov sound like a sweeeeeeet place to work if a scientist, right? Let alone one tasked in protecting/monitoring our natural resources. God help us all, because he apparently loves fools.
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I heard recently that the USGS is basically cutting a major groundwater quality and water level monitoring network, and they're handing it all over to the State which is woefully unprepared to make full use of it. So we'll lose out on important water quality monitoring.

One more way we're making America dumb again!

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Holy shit! For real? I use that gauge every year. What will the alternative be? Call the Minam store? Install a foot gauge? Thatís crazy.
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This could also just be the standard USGS brinksmanship-based funding model. They choose high popularity/usage gauges to list as threatened/endangered, with the assumption that either private companies or local governments will cough up the funds to keep the gauges operating. They did this last year or the year before with the New River at Thurmond gauge (the gauge for the New River Gorge). I'm not sure if the rafting companies fell for the ploy, but that gauge no longer carries the 'to be discontinued' message.

*edit - Just looked, and the NRG gauge is sill listed as 'endangered.'
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The USGS has moved the termination date for the Grande Ronde gauge at Troy to Nov 30. I spoke with Keith Overton at the USGS in Portland. He says the Walla Walla District of the Corps of Engineers has been funding that gauge but has had budget cuts. USGS is actively seeking another funder -- talking with Forest Service, BLM, Tribes, State. Full cost is about $21,000 a year. One option they are considering is running the Troy gauge and the gauge on the Minam for parts of the year to save $. Might be worth folks pinging the Corps to let them know how big a deal this is --
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