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Old 10-23-2014   #1
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OutCast vs RMR?

At similar price points...
Outcast PAC 1300 equipt with whats on the website. Frame w/floors, oars/blades, etc. http://www.outcastboats.com/outcast/...uctions_LR.pdf
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RMR 13' with riverboat works stonefly frame, poly deck, 3 seats, carlisle oars/blades, both lean bars
The 2014 Inventory Reduction Sale is On!! - Custom Raft & Fishing Frames (grey raft)

Both Welded seams.
10yr warranty vs RMR 5 yr
Weight difference
$300+ for Outcast
Local Business for RBW- helpful guys, local eventual retrofits
Outcast less interior space?
Outcast frame doesnt seem as ergonomic as RBW


Anyone have experience running these two boats?

Also considering OUTCAST pAc 1400 for 4200 (would really like a 14er but as a guide boat a 13 seems more usable for Vail area.)


Blowing up the BUZZ, sorry, first real raft purchase coming up and trying to find the best deal/value/boat and frame in general.

Thanks for the Input and all of the previous help fellas.

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FYI, the Outcast pac 1300 is an Aire Super Puma.
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You are all over the place aren't you...

I've fished out of a lot of super pumas and they're great but you should know that they are not directly comparable to a standard boat design like the RMR, they are much narrower.

In reality the 13' outcast is a much smaller boat than the 13' RMR. The 14' outcast (Super Duper Puma, SDP for short) is still slightly narrower than the 13' RMR but a foot longer. Of all the options you've listed that would be the most versatile.

I think the SDP would be a perfect compromise for the uses you've stated. Again, good luck...I think you need it
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A comment on size - I recently went from a 13' boat to 15'. My new boat has a constant rocker kind of like the puma series but is normal width. I can get it almost anywhere I could get my 13' hyside. It is MUCH more maneuverable and floats higher. I don't know the water your taking about but things get pretty skinny up here and I adore my bigger boat. As you mentioned earlier, 2-more-feet disease is rampant amongst boaters.
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You are all over the place aren't you...

Again, good luck...I think you need it
..... Ill be sure to put a check in the mail for your services.

Thanks. Now ive got this decision on my plate.
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..... Ill be sure to put a check in the mail for your services.

Thanks. Now ive got this decision on my plate.
I totally understand what you're going through... I went through a similar situation last fall when I got my new boat... first it was just going to be a bigger used boat, then an SDP, then I looked at RMR....several months later my new boat arrived. There are a ton of options and even more opinions on what's best... Enjoy what ever you get.
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You are all over the place aren't you...
Lol

As was touched on, being an Aire you can dismiss the welded seems in your comparison. Aire uses a bladder. Kind of like a bike tire with a tube versus a car tire. Different tech. That being said Aire makes pretty bomber stuff and the warranty is excellent. They are popular with the guides up there since they are narrow boats but I agree again with Elk, you miss the room usually more than not being able to get somewhere. You can generally squeeze anywhere in a bigger boat and these boats have very little draft. I was going to make the comparison that the PAC’s use steel frames instead of aluminum but it appears they’ve changed to NRS frames in recent years. Great boats for sure.

Maybe you should just go for a Stream Tech and really build that credit
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Maybe you should just go for a Stream Tech and really build that credit
or these guys (new to me) $8500:



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RMR all the way. The outcast is a great fishing boat, but a 13' RMR can do everything. I just bought one from RBW and have been super pumped about it. Those guys build way better frames than a NRS frame I.M.H.O.
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Very nice!
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