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Old 05-04-2018   #1
 
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Newbie Motor Bailer

Figured Id share my setup Ive been working on this past rainy season. This is my first official raft.

I got a smoking deal on this Otter a while back. It had a couple short Kern trips from a guy who didnt know what he was getting into and then it sat from what I was told and by the looks it appeared so...

I built it kinda with the mindset that it may not do anything great, but hopefully it will do multiple things decent. We just bought a home on lower American and since I spend a lot of time iking the local rivers and creeks and hanging out on the lower AR banks, it would be fun to be able to motor around and also take it on the whitewater as a paddle raft. The rear end is removeable so eventually Ill add some oar towers when I want to utilize the frame without the motor transom.

I also built up the trailer from an atv trailler I scored and have done a bunch of mods to. All in all Im in it fairly cheap.

After the maiden voyage I found some big flaws and made some changes quick. I had read on this forum to not do the std -15 deg transom angle. So I did a pretty straight NRS looking transom. Performed terribly. Came home and hacked the transom and brought motor up/in and gave it the negative angle....much better on this stiff frame. Also temp plugged the bailing holes for motor use. Now Im out there having some fun!
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Old 05-04-2018   #2
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Nice Work! Congrats on your new rig.
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Old 05-05-2018   #4
 
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looks nice, but why did you want your motor mounted so far back off of the tube with no adjustable bracket? I would move the mounting plate as close to the tubes as you can and add an adjustable outboard mount.
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Old 05-05-2018   #5
 
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Very nice work. The true test is, can you tilt the motor shaft up, about 20 and throw a 20 foot rooster tail of water in the air and completely soak the boat and passangers behind you. Yes, welcome to the dark side.
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Old 05-05-2018   #6
 
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Thanks y’all. It’s getting there.
Mikepart, you’re absolutely right about needing to get close to the tubes. My first attempt I had read how the NRS curved mount was better than their old style so I tried to do something similar. It was way too far back. I hacked it up and brought things closer and it’s working much better. In order to tilt the motor completely up it’s about as close to the tubes as I can get it. I’m probably going to do a different transom plate here soon. My first attempt allowed for more adjustment, only in the wrong direction. It’s pretty tough to find info online in this subject so I’m just going by trial and error. I’m a newbie to the raft and motoring the river. Learning though. Actually took it out today with one more guy and it rides completely different and has me second guessing my transom ideas.
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I love it!

Nicely done. *Pro tip* You can cut off an old Carlisle oar and use the handle as a tiller extension.
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Hi,

beware is right, and I have done exactly that, to good effect.

But it won't save your back when you have to lean back all that distance to pull the motor repeatedly.

Use the extension for comfort and convenience, but get the transom as close to the tubes as your other functional requirements will allow.

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Old 05-08-2018   #9
 
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Awesome! Thank you both for the tip. I had been thinking about making a tiller extension out of pvc or something cheap. The oar tube is a great idea. As fas as pulling the motor I actually already came up with a strap I bolted on either side of the motor, which has really helped out. I appreciate all advice and/or criticism. It’s definitely not the perfect setup, but each trip is a learning experience.
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Looks like your strap will work just fine but a setup like this is another option.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Adju...5.uts?slotId=3

You should also consider disabling the transom lock so that the motor is unlocked in forward and neutral so if you hit something it can kick up.

A Prop guard is also a valuable tool that can save you LOTS of money.

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