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Old 1 Week Ago   #101
 
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Gangs?Any sociologist will tell you gangs are largely a function of lack of opportunity for youth.Which party favors more expenditure on education and youth programs?
I think you have a limited view on gangs, so let us double your knowledge and start here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_Los_Angeles

If you take the time to good look and do open minded research, you'll find most have Mexican roots. Maybe we should be educating Mexican citizens, huh?? That's a good liberal idea. Just saying...

I'd buy you a beer and get you laid but I didn't how what gender you identify with today. let a lone tomorrow??

Next we can do research on why ppl move out of cali. Personal safety and taxation are high on the list. 62% report homelessness as a big problem.

https://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san...t-13614119.php

Anyway take care little buddy. The world aint out to get ya. Trump aint a raciest and Russia didn't help him. Socialist ideas wont save the world. If they did, everyone would be moving to cali, but only homeless and criminals going there now. Hell, even the Raiders left. Super sad if you ask me.

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Jeez gotta go to work...so you don't get that "largely a function of" means there are other reasons too?It does not matter the race of the people as much as the conditions they are under.Remember when Irish,Jewish, and Italian,immigrants were the gangsters?You made all the effort to look up just LA on wikipedia,better than nothing I guess..can't say I have not done it at times....


Your link stated that cost of living was the primary reason for leaving,housing costs and property taxes are part of that...don't really need to point out how ridiculous your calling California,home to some of the biggest companies in the world,socialist is...if you mean bad liberal policies have helped screw up the state,you have a case,but it is far more complicated than that...

You can stop trying to bait me with macho bullshit...congratulations you reinforced yourself as a racist,misogynistic,homophobic ,moron,yet again...
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You can stop trying to bait me with macho bullshit...congratulations you reinforced yourself as a racist,misogynistic,homophobic ,moron,yet again...
No baiting here. Just like poking people full of hate that think everyone that disagrees is a "racist,misogynistic,homophobic ,moron,yet again..." that is the core of all liberal arguments. They all go there.. Some faster than others.
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I agree flying off the handle is poor form.It gets extremely frustrating to deal with people who traffic so freely in misinformation and seemingly have no rational basis to their views. I assure you I know infinitely more about this topic than the respondents .When you have to resort to flag waving or religion in a debate,you may win the popularity contest but you have lost the intellectual argument.Okie completely distorted what I said,a form of lying.I suggested comparing our current form of bad capitalism ( supply side)to the results yielded on quality of life indexes in democratic socialist countries/social democracies like Scandanavia\northern Europe.I never said we should emulate ANY country in Latin America.

My defense of Chavez for years is based on exposing our undemocratic actions intervening in other country's elections and governance,and I appreciate what he was trying to do and the context events were occurring in.Maduro is in a clinging to power phase and doing undemocratic things,but any version of events that does not ,at least ,acknowledge our meddling and it's impacts is bullshit.

Repubs claiming not to be rascists,are you kidding?You elected Trump on race baiting over immigration.His campaign was run by Steve Bannon,champion of the alt-right.And is currently under the influence of Steven Miller.

Move it to the eddy ,that's fine with me.

Haha Cayo,


For someone who knows "infinitely more" than others, you were beyond drastically wrong on the utopia and success of the Socialist experiment. Typical of leftist, elitists like yourself to claim intellectual superiority. You and your ilk are so tiresome. Go bang on doors for you hero AOC and stop the drivel on Mtnbuzz.
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You really have major reading comprehension problems,among other things.Basing policy on results is exactly what I was advocating.Republicans ,collectively, ignore fact based reality regarding health care results and costs compared to other countries.We pay upwards of 17% of GDP .Other advanced nations pay ,typically ,9 to 11% and get as good or better results.


So only California has those problems?You laud Texas then talk about crooked politicians.A lot the people moving to Idaho or Montana are doing it because of housing values.Median home values in Cali are outrageous,if you sell your home and move to a cheaper state you can pocket the difference.Some may like the culture more.Texas attracts business to relocate because of low taxes.Then you have to live in a state with poor services and the worst environmental( along with Louisiana) standards.

Debt,lol,yeah dems tax and spend on things they think are important.Repubs spend as much or more,then cut taxes ,thus raising the debt more.And they spend/waste the money on military misadventures and tax cuts stacked in favor of the wealthy.They deprive the country of needed revenue by defending bad policies like the step up in basis provision that leaves dynastic family wealth untaxed,absurdly low capital gains tax,historically low rate on the highest marginal tax brackets.Grover Nordquist and friends have political leverage that allows for a one way street ,only tax cuts never increases in response to need,just a race to the bottom.

Gangs?Any sociologist will tell you gangs are largely a function of lack of opportunity for youth.Which party favors more expenditure on education and youth programs?


You make it dam n difficult not to fly off the handle again.I stand by the earlier idiot comments.

Oh,and by the way the most crooked politicians in Cali are repubs Darrell Issa,the only convicted felon in congress,and Devin 'dumb as a stump 'Nunes.

Typical of libs hurl insults at people instead of talking policy! Are you kidding Cayo on the healthcare, the US by far leads the world in healthcare and drug innovation, we actually subsidize all of these costs for the rest of the world. Cherry picking health data such as average life span and birth rate morbity numbers are reckless at best. These data points are skewed due to the obese, drug addicted population in the United States which is directly related to the Liberal Policies over the last 40 years which have fractured the American family and the removal of religion from our society.


Keep talking-you know the old saying by Twain! You have definitely removed all doubt!
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You can stop trying to bait me with macho bullshit...congratulations you reinforced yourself as a racist,misogynistic,homophobic ,moron,yet again...[/QUOTE]



Hilarious, another lost argument so immediately go with the racist, misogyny, homophobic thing. Congrats on admitting your failure, keep hurling insults snowflake!
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No baiting here. Just like poking people full of hate that think everyone that disagrees is a "racist,misogynistic,homophobic ,moron,yet again..." that is the core of all liberal arguments. They all go there.. Some faster than others.

Hit the proverbial nail on the head dirtbag.



"Where there is a vacuum of ideas, paranoia slips in. Much of the left's hate speech bears greater similarity to a psychological disorder than to standard political discourse. The hatred is blinding, producing logical contradictions that would be impossible to sustain were it not for the central element faith plays in the left's new religion. The basic tenet of their faith is this: Maybe they were wrong about their facts and policies, but they are good and conservatives are evil. You almost want to give it to them. It's all they have left. "



Anne Coulter



I will admit that this seems so strange to me, politics on a river forum. I NEVER allow discussions about politics on any of my trips, religion falls into that category as well.
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Does this mean we've answered the original question of whether or not the buzz is dead... ?

Kayaking discussion has moved to FB but at least we're getting the relentless political ramblings on the buzz. Shut 'er down boys.
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There's a June 6th Middle Fork permit up for grab's right now @ 12:30pm Pacific Time. Possibly that will change attitudes for a minute.
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