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Old 04-27-2016   #1
 
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Ever torn your shoulder labrum?

I was recently diagnosed with a SLAP tear in my shoulder. Wondering if surgery is the only option to get back on the river. Any insight appreciated.

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Old 04-27-2016   #2
 
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Ever torn your shoulder labrum?

I pulled my arm out years ago and did nothing about it for 3.5 years (I was broke!) and finally got it fixed last September. I had my labrum reattached in a few stops, my biceps tendon cut and reattached lower down and a bone spur ground down. When I went into Doctor last spring and explained to him my injury, he did not even have to look at x-rays to know surgery was a must. Started out as a $22k surgery and ended up being $47k. My shoulder was toast!!! Rehab can do wonders but if it's bad or you wait years it will just get worse and worse. How did you do it?

I used my bum arm for years doing almost everything except could not reach overhead without it coming out. When you are swimming through some nasty rapid an arm out of socket is a bitch! I could always rotate arm over head and it would slide back in but everythin time I popped it out it would stay out longer and longer. You should have seen me try to throw a ball.


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I got a shoulder injury on my right side taking a fall skiing in moguls this past February. It hurts everyday,but the pain pretty bearable. The pain is worst when I try to sleep. I can still paddle and row a raft, but kayak paddling on my left side will be a handicap. I can no longer throw a baseball like a man, and my throw bag toss will have to be side arm or underhand from now on.

I was told surgery would be in the range of $12,000 for my injury, plus whatever insurance covers. Seams like surgery is the only option. I am hoping the pain will be more bearable as I get used to it, and I will just live with this handicap.

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You probably need a Bankart repair. Steadman clinic is the best. Get it done!
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Old 04-28-2016   #5
 
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Surgery is your only option if you want to whitewater kayak. It will not heal on its own. The surgery sucks, but it works. Just do it.
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Dang, sorry pal. That really sucks. SLAP tear is not good news. If that's for sure what it is (arthrogram is only way to truly diagnose and even then very skilled eyes are required to determine what's going on) you'll need surgery, and results are reportedly mixed. If you're relatively young and otherwise healthy you should be able to return to the rio, but don't mess around with your situation. I'll tell you my story with the hope that it will help you navigate this frustrating process.

I've had pain and impingement off and on for years. It finally got bad enough 1.5 years ago that I sought out a shoulder specialist. He gave me the usual scenario; PT and ibuprofen for a few months, come back for cortisone shots if not better, blah blah blah. After "not better" I went back and he expressed concern that I might have a SLAP tear and ordered an arthrogram. Two months later after looking at the results he diagnosed a rotator cuff tear of "around 50%" and said it was time to consider surgery but there was no hurry. That was last August. I went ahead and put it on the calendar for October and went paddling the following weekend when a swim resulting from stupidity at the top of the run dialed the pain and weakness to 11. I mentioned all this to a buddy and he told me to at least get a second opinion before I went ahead with a surgery I might not need. He gave me a name, I called and was there two days later.

The new doc looked at my arthrogram and showed me where the contrast dye had gone all the way through my shoulder which to him indicated full thickness tear. Then he said the magic words. "We need to get you paddling again". I scheduled surgery with him before I left (repaired full thickness tear, resected huge bursa and ground down bone spurs) and have been extremely pleased with the results. It's been an arduous process. Shoulder surgery requires the longest and most difficult recovery of any joint. I had it in September and am just now able to do pull ups with the aid of a resistance band. I can do one push up and regret it later. But, there are upper body things I can do carefully and I can row and paddle and am steadily getting better.

So, the morals of my story? Don't mess around with it. Don't hesitate to get multiple opinions if at all possible. If for any reason you're not happy with your provider, even if it's something intangible like bad vibes or "I just don't like him/her" (not necessarily anyone's fault), don't hesitate to seek out another if at all possible. You may find it's better or worse than previously thought and can adjust your treatment plan appropriately. It'll probably get worse before it gets better but it will get better. It's a long haul.

Good luck!
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I was told by my surgeon that I didn't necessarily need surgery, but I would always run the risk of my shoulder popping in and out of socket.... I had mine done by Dr Millett at Steadman and never looked back. Not cheap, but worth every penny. I have four little scars that you wouldn't know were there if I didn't point them out. If you do it, STICK WITH THE REHAB! Good luck.
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If you do it, STICK WITH THE REHAB! Good luck.
This. Rehab must become your religion.
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This. Rehab must become your religion.
Rehab. And accept that you will not paddle this year. Wait until you are 100% healed. I wish I had.
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Dang, sorry pal. That really sucks. SLAP tear is not good news. If that's for sure what it is (arthrogram is only way to truly diagnose and even then very skilled eyes are required to determine what's going on) you'll need surgery, and results are reportedly mixed. If you're relatively young and otherwise healthy you should be able to return to the rio, but don't mess around with your situation. I'll tell you my story with the hope that it will help you navigate this frustrating process.

I've had pain and impingement off and on for years. It finally got bad enough 1.5 years ago that I sought out a shoulder specialist. He gave me the usual scenario; PT and ibuprofen for a few months, come back for cortisone shots if not better, blah blah blah. After "not better" I went back and he expressed concern that I might have a SLAP tear and ordered an arthrogram. Two months later after looking at the results he diagnosed a rotator cuff tear of "around 50%" and said it was time to consider surgery but there was no hurry. That was last August. I went ahead and put it on the calendar for October and went paddling the following weekend when a swim resulting from stupidity at the top of the run dialed the pain and weakness to 11. I mentioned all this to a buddy and he told me to at least get a second opinion before I went ahead with a surgery I might not need. He gave me a name, I called and was there two days later.

The new doc looked at my arthrogram and showed me where the contrast dye had gone all the way through my shoulder which to him indicated full thickness tear. Then he said the magic words. "We need to get you paddling again". I scheduled surgery with him before I left (repaired full thickness tear, resected huge bursa and ground down bone spurs) and have been extremely pleased with the results. It's been an arduous process. Shoulder surgery requires the longest and most difficult recovery of any joint. I had it in September and am just now able to do pull ups with the aid of a resistance band. I can do one push up and regret it later. But, there are upper body things I can do carefully and I can row and paddle and am steadily getting better.

So, the morals of my story? Don't mess around with it. Don't hesitate to get multiple opinions if at all possible. If for any reason you're not happy with your provider, even if it's something intangible like bad vibes or "I just don't like him/her" (not necessarily anyone's fault), don't hesitate to seek out another if at all possible. You may find it's better or worse than previously thought and can adjust your treatment plan appropriately. It'll probably get worse before it gets better but it will get better. It's a long haul.

Good luck!
This is literally the same story as me. Get it fixed like he said! I waited and it got much worse!
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