Originally Posted by Riverwild
Just FYI there are only 4 Outfitters on the Selway. ARTA would be sweet, they have a MFS permit as well and don't run a sweep boat, which could be a good and bad thing depending on how you look at it.
Selway River Adventures
SRA just bought it last year. Chances are you could get on with them, I heard all their guides quit last summer in the middle of the season so I figure they are looking.
looks like Hughes River Expeditions just bought a license. They are booking trips for 2020 and 2021? Maybe they bought a license that was released from another outfitter?
I wonder why SRA guides walked out? Not a good sign, but that could also be the guides trying to mutineer the company. Crazy!
OK- on to the certifications.
Personally I have mixed opinions about certification. My OPINION means jack when insurance providers mandate minimum levels of certification by employees. That said, my OPINION is that certification has become a little ridiculous. I mean seriously, culinary arts certification? OK, we don't want people getting food poisoning, is that the point? Can we simply have training on how to pack coolers and label food appropriately? Can we have food prep training? I'm a dutch oven master. I love teaching others the art of it. But do I need a certification for that? Where does that whole thing end? Should we have a juggling certification so guests don't get hit in the head with bowling pins? You see where I'm going?
It's all relative to the safety of the guest experience and what insurance policy mandates. There was a time when I was current and holding SRT-1, EMT-B, CPR and FA. In 25 years of boating, I can say the knowledge I gained in those classes 25 plus years ago was useful less than a handful of times. Not to say it isn't good knowledge when you need it, and I am grateful for having it. But like others, I have no interest in maintaining a certification beyond CPR and First Aid, and I truly believe that is OK.
Requiring all these wilderness specialized certifications is puckey. What is the difference between wilderness EMT and urban EMT? Nothing. Except an urban ambulance company might not hire you if you are "wilderness" trained. A rafting company WILL hire you if you are an urban EMT - regardless. Skip the "wilderness" label. It just means you trained with tree bark and rescue baskets. I'm more inclined to hire someone with actual experience versus someone who is merely certified. If it isn't a strict requirement for the job, it simply means the legal liability has not been established. Is it a good idea? Probably. But not a requirement.
Still, it should have a significant value of added compensation considering the time and money investment, which in my past experience it does not. This in and of itself tells you the "actual" value of being certified. Again not a requirement. I did it for personal reasons because I had children at home.
During my guide school in 1990, we had a registered nurse on our trip. She was part of the staff at the guide school. We were on the Merced River, Chevron Run (Class V) when a guide trainee separated his shoulder. The entire party stood around the trainee watching this nurse fail to reset the guy's arm. Finally one of the senior guides stepped up and made the trainee lay face down over a large rock to support his body while draping his separated arm over the edge. The guide then put a heavy rock in his hand which promptly returned the shoulder to its socket.
Proof it doesn't take a degree or certification to do what is common sense. Oftentimes we overthink it.