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Old 11-13-2018   #71
 
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Fire pan, Grand Canyon

I'm sure this has been covered but I had to ask, has anyone checked to see if the Grand Canyon rangers will allow this product?

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Old 01-23-2019   #72
 
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I'd also like to know if the Pop-Up Pit passes the Grand inspection. I bought one last October before a late October Westwater trip. I was driving shuttle during the inspection, so I don't know that it passed or not as someone also had a traditional heavy fire pan in our kit.



However, we did use the Pop-up on the night in the canyon with a fire blanket underneath, and it performed amazingly well. Overloaded with firewood, the mesh sagged, but held together. My friend even baked a cake in a dutch oven on it using charcoal without the grate. Everyone was impressed, both with the cake and the pit. The only question was about the longevity of the steel mesh, so I think I'll buy a backup mesh because that seems like the most likely point of failure, but so far so good.


Regardless, has anyone had the Pop-up pit pass inspection on the Grand yet?
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Old 01-23-2019   #73
 
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There was another thread about the pit a month or so ago and someone posted up that the rangers at Lees Ferry had a discussion about the pop up pit at check in and ended up giving it the ok. FWIW.
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Old 01-24-2019   #74
 
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November trip

Yes the ranger did have a look at it and they did give it a OK. They still want you to have a fire blanket.
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Old 02-13-2019   #75
 
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Just put in my order!
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Old 02-22-2019   #76
 
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I believe the acceptance of new ideas depend a lot on the individual river "ranger" the first few times a new idea is deployed. From there, a lot of its future will depend on the feedback those individual give in the employee meetings with each other and with "overhead." Sell the idea as one that will make the NPS look good. Remember their priorities: "First, last and always, CYA. Second and not really separated from the first, make your overhead supervisory ladder look good." And inescapable in the final scheme of things, remember that if it gets all the way to the clowns in Washington D.C., the National Park Service can become quite indistinguishable from a Police State. That was, in fact, the very definition which the late Charles Peterson, a Superintendent, was sorry to use upon his retirement after a 40 year career with the outfit. In that 40 years on the inside, he had seen it evolve. That was 30 years ago, and in many ways it has changed, but has become no better. It's just Government. Should you ever disagree, just roll with it. It probably isn't them who is being the fool.
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Old 02-22-2019   #77
 
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Is there any word on the development of the oven setup?
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Is there any word on the development of the oven setup?
Nothing to report yet. The MountainBuzz community will be the first to know when we have a production prototype I assure you!
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Old 02-25-2019   #79
 
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Sounds good, let me know if you need some assistance with field testing.


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Nothing to report yet. The MountainBuzz community will be the first to know when we have a production prototype I assure you!
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Took the plunge and ordered the complete pop-up kit. Will test it out on an upcoming Salt trip in early April and a Deso trip mid June. Always hated hauling that 25 pound fire pan around. Will give you my feed back.
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