Why Obama is the conservative candidate - Mountain Buzz
 

Go Back   Mountain Buzz > Other Chatter > The Eddy


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-18-2008   #1
Self-Aggrandizing jackass
 
heliodorus04's Avatar
 
The Ranch, Colorado
Paddling Since: 04
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,134
Why Obama is the conservative candidate

This is written by the former publisher of National Review (you know, Bill Buckley's mag?)

A Conservative for Obama | D Magazine - Dallas Fort Worth's Resource for City Guides, Daily Blogs, D Bests, and Restaurants

Money quotes:
Quote:
Conservatism to me is less a political philosophy than a stance, a recognition of the fallibility of man and of man’s institutions. Conservatives respect the past not for its antiquity but because it represents, as G.K. Chesterton said, the democracy of the dead; it gives the benefit of the doubt to customs and laws tried and tested in the crucible of time. Conservatives are skeptical of abstract theories and utopian schemes, doubtful that government is wiser than its citizens, and always ready to test any political program against actual results.
Quote:
But today it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don’t work. The Bush tax cuts—a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war—led to huge deficit spending and a $3 trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his “conservative” credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts. Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.
Quote:
Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.

__________________
"self-aggrandizing jackass" - it says it right on the label
heliodorus04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-18-2008   #2
 
DurangoSteve's Avatar
 
Durango, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2001
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,907
Helio - You are a thoughtful and disciplined person who does his homework. Thanks for this post.
DurangoSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2008   #3
Self-Aggrandizing jackass
 
heliodorus04's Avatar
 
The Ranch, Colorado
Paddling Since: 04
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,134
Dude, I'm so in need of an ego bashing, it's not funny. Where's Kombat32 when I need him!
__________________
"self-aggrandizing jackass" - it says it right on the label
heliodorus04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-18-2008   #4
 
DurangoSteve's Avatar
 
Durango, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2001
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,907
Helio - You are a self-absorbed, self-important know-it-all who uses really big words to make the rest of us feel small and stupid.

Better?
DurangoSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2008   #5
gh
 
pnw, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,408
i like this quote better.

Quote:
“Every great cause,” Eric Hoffer wrote, “begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world, I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.
and it sums things up for me. I really dont see how people can look at the Republican party today and not see the point of this article.
__________________
"Yesterday I was clever and tried to change the world. Today I am wise and try to change myself." -Rumi
gh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2008   #6
 
lhowemt's Avatar
 
at my house, Montana
Paddling Since: 2020
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,606
Quote:
Originally Posted by heliodorus04 View Post
Dude, I'm so in need of an ego bashing, it's not funny. Where's Kombat32 when I need him!
Sh!t. I was so going to compliment you until I read this. I was going to take back my insult to you from a few weeks ago.

Instead - is your computer monitor a mirror?
__________________
Living in Montana, boating in Idaho
lhowemt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2008   #7
Self-Aggrandizing jackass
 
heliodorus04's Avatar
 
The Ranch, Colorado
Paddling Since: 04
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,134
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhowemt View Post

Instead - is your computer monitor a mirror?
Well played; I needed that.
__________________
"self-aggrandizing jackass" - it says it right on the label
heliodorus04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Let's go the truth on Obama! mr. compassionate The Eddy 100 10-02-2008 02:38 PM
Questions for Obama supporters rmpeddie The Eddy 65 09-09-2008 08:47 AM
Palin, fundraiser for Obama? gh The Eddy 5 09-04-2008 06:34 PM
Grateful Dead reuniting for Obama! marko The Eddy 22 02-06-2008 10:50 AM
Is the Neo-conservative Airplane Crashing? marko The Eddy 0 11-06-2006 05:07 PM

» Classified Ads
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.