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Old 03-03-2009   #1
 
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Why Bush was a stinking turd

Bush Adm. Weighed Restricting 1st Amendment | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

Another reason why John Yoo should be tried for treason.

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Extraordinary Measures

A new memo shows just how far the Bush administration considered going in fighting the war on terror.
Michael Isikoff
Newsweek Web Exclusive

In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the Justice Department secretly gave the green light for the U.S. military to attack apartment buildings and office complexes inside the United States, deploy high-tech surveillance against U.S. citizens and potentially suspend First Amendment freedom-of-the-press rights in order to combat the terror threat, according to a memo released Monday.

Many of the actions discussed in the Oct. 23, 2001, memo to then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's chief lawyer, William Haynes, were never actually taken.

But the memo from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel—along with others made public for the first time Monday—illustrates with new details the extraordinary post-9/11 powers asserted by Bush administration lawyers. Those assertions ultimately led to such controversial policies as allowing the waterboarding of terror suspects and permitting warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens—steps that remain the subject of ongoing investigations by Congress and the Justice Department. The memo was co-written by John Yoo, at the time a deputy attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel. Yoo, now a professor at the Boalt Hall School of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, has emerged as one of the central figures in those ongoing investigations.

In perhaps the most surprising assertion, the Oct. 23, 2001, memo suggested the president could even suspend press freedoms if he concluded it was necessary to wage the war on terror. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in the memo entitled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activity Within the United States."

This claim was viewed as so extreme that it was essentially (and secretly) revoked—but not until October of last year, seven years after the memo was written and with barely three and a half months left in the Bush administration.

At that time, Steven Bradbury, who headed the Office of Legal Counsel throughout Bush's second term, concluded that Yoo's statements about overriding First Amendment freedoms were "unnecessary" and "overbroad and general and not sufficiently grounded in the particular circumstance of a concrete scenario," according to a memo from Bradbury also made public Monday.

Kate Martin, the director for the Center for National Security Studies, a Washington think tank, said the newly disclosed memo by Yoo and Robert Delahunty, another OLC lawyer, was part of a broader legal reasoning that gave President Bush essentially unfettered powers in the war on terrorism. "In October 2001, they were trying to construct a legal regime that would basically have allowed for the imposition of martial law," said Martin. (Yoo, also a visiting scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, did not respond to a request for comment. Gonzales's lawyer, George Terwilliger, said he had not yet had a chance to review the newly released memo and also declined to comment.)

On Jan. 15, 2009—with only five days left before Bush left office—Bradbury also rescinded three other legal memos written during the president's first term that claimed broad powers to unilaterally suspend treaties, bypass restrictions on domestic surveillance and take other actions to combat terrorism without the approval of Congress. Bradbury said in a separate legal memo that the claims made in these earlier memos were based on unsound legal reasoning and should not be viewed as "authoritative." But he offered no explanation for why he waited until the waning days of Bush's presidency to withdraw them.

The most controversial, and best known, of Yoo's legal opinions was his Aug. 1, 2002, memo that effectively approved the president's right to disregard a federal law banning torture in ordering the interrogation of terror suspects. An accompanying (and still unreleased) memo from the same day approved the CIA's authority to use "waterboarding" (or simulated drowning) against terror suspects.

In a related matter, the CIA acknowledged in a legal filing Monday that it has destroyed 92 interrogation tapes of two suspects who were subjected to waterboarding. While it was previously known that the agency had destroyed some tapes, the number of destroyed tapes was far more "systemic" than had previously been known, according to Amrit Singh, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, which has been seeking records about the destroyed evidence under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

A U.S. government official familiar with the matter said all of the destructions took place in November 2005 and mostly involved the interrogations and detention of Abu Zubaydah, a "high-value" detainee who was captured in March 2002 and remains today at the U.S. detention facility at Guantánamo Bay. A small number of the destroyed tapes also involved the interrogation and detention of another suspect, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, an alleged architect of the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole. Justice Department special counsel John Durham, who is investigating the destruction of the tapes, previously said he planned to finish his interviews by the end of February, but has given no indication of whether he plans to charge anybody involved with a crime.

The newly disclosed Oct. 23, 2001, memo was in response to a request from Gonzales, at the time President Bush's top lawyer, and Haynes, who was chief counsel at the Pentagon, to determine if there were any restrictions on the use of the U.S. military inside the country in targeting terror suspects. The Yoo memo essentially concluded there were none. The country, he argued, was in a "state of armed conflict." The scale of violence, he argued, was unprecedented and "legal and constitutional rules" governing law enforcement—such as the Fourth Amendment prohibition on "unreasonable" searches and seizures—did not apply.

At one point, the memo says, the U.S. military could be used for "targeting and destroying" a hijacked airline or "attacking civilian targets, such as apartment buildings, offices or ships where suspected terrorists were thought to be." At another point, the memo advices: "Military action might encompass making arrests, seizing documents or other property, searching persons or places or keeping them under surveillance, intercepting electronic or wireless communications, setting up roadblocks, interviewing witnesses or searching for suspects."

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Yoo's wrong-headed view of the Imperial Presidency and his incredible disrespect for the Constitution was, and still is, an outrage. He is far more intelligent than Gonzales, which made him far more dangerous. Thank God he's gone. Thank God that crazy memo was never acted upon. Thank God that is was revealed to the public.
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Yoo's wrong-headed view of the Imperial Presidency and his incredible disrespect for the Constitution was, and still is, an outrage. He is far more intelligent than Gonzales, which made him far more dangerous. Thank God he's gone. Thank God that crazy memo was never acted upon. Thank God that is was revealed to the public.
Steve,

Where do you stand on the use of the U.S. military inside the US in targeting and taking direct action against terror suspects?
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Bush Adm. Weighed Restricting 1st Amendment | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

Another reason why John Yoo should be tried for treason.
Actually Abe Lincoln the latest "greatest" President according to CSPAN, more than simply investigating the possiblity of, actually executed many of these same policies.

Was he also stinking turd?
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Theo - you nailed me pretty good on the "posse comitatus" thang regarding Waco. I have very deep reservations about using the U.S. military domestically. If it meant stopping an attack, I would be willing to "look the other way" regarding a possible violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
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Rent "W" ... it's pretty entertaining
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Rent "W" ... it's pretty entertaining
Was it as good as "The Path to 911"?....oh wait you can't rent that DVD. Blocking The Path To 9/11
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It doesnt quite seem plausible that "thanks to attacks by liberals protecting the Clinton legacy The path to 9/11 was severely edited and is still being censored today."
This is supposedly an independent film maker with no sponsors. Who is to stop him from doing whatever he wants, liberals in 2006? ...
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It doesnt quite seem plausible that "thanks to attacks by liberals protecting the Clinton legacy The path to 9/11 was severely edited and is still being censored today."
This is supposedly an independent film maker with no sponsors. Who is to stop him from doing whatever he wants, liberals in 2006? ...
I heard that "W" was a good movie from both a self proclaimed liberal and conservative.

I don't watch many movies and never television but maybe someday...
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