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Old 11-04-2008   #1
 
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Civilian National Security Force?

Well, it's too late, I cast my vote. Can't change much now and I don't think it really matters anyway, looks like it won't be much of a contest.

But I heard about this just an hour ago.....made me wonder why the issue was never brought up, why was this not a BIG issue during the campaign's, why wasn't clarification pursued???

Anyone have any insight on this article I came across???? What did he mean??? A "primary initiative of his presidency"......

I copied and pasted below:

With all the reporters covering the major presidential candidates, it amazes me no one ever seems to ask the right questions.

For several days now, WND has been hounding Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Now, since I've never heard anyone inside or out of government use the phrase "civilian national security force" before, I was more than a little curious about what he has in mind.

Is it possible I am the only journalist in America who sought clarification on this campaign promise?

What does it mean?

If we're going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn't this rather a big deal?

I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together?

Now, maybe he was misquoted by the Congressional Quarterly and the Chicago Tribune. I guess it's possible. If so, you would think he would want to set the record straight. Maybe he misspoke. That has certainly happened before. Again, why wouldn't the rest of my colleagues show some curiosity about such a major and, frankly, bone-chilling proposition?

Are we talking about creating a police state here?

The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn't count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. Defense budget was $439 billion.

Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that?

If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?

So far, despite our attempts to find out, the Obama campaign is not talking.

At this point all I can do is enlist your help and the help of every other journalist who still thinks the American people have a right to know the specifics about a presidential candidate's biggest and boldest initiatives before the election. I also want to ask radio talk-show hosts across America to start asking this same question. I have a feeling if others join our quest, we might yet get clarification on this proposal from Obama.

Who will Obama appoint to administer this new "civilian national security force"? Where will the money come from? Where in the Constitution does he see justification for the federal government creating such a domestic army?

The questions are endless.

But before we can hope to get to the specifics, we need much more in the way of generalizations from Obama.

Certainly there have been initiatives like this elsewhere Cuba, the Soviet Union, China, Venezuela, North Korea. But has anything like this ever been proposed in a free country?

I have a feeling there would be more questions from the press if I myself had proposed the creation of something as preposterous as a "civilian national security force" than there has been about this proposal by the presidential candidate currently leading in most of the polls. I'm quite sure I would be hung out to dry as some kind of Nazi thug. Meanwhile, Obama makes this wild suggestion and it is met with a collective yawn from the watchdogs.

Help me out here. What am I missing?

Can I get a hand?

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Obama is on drugs. hes a clueless dumbass. he is socialist
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Coming from you, I am sure he is deeply hurt.
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im sure he doesn't care what i think, actually im positive he doesn't care what i think, what you think or what anybody thinks but him.
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The only way I could interpret this in a way I would think he meant is that if we pull out of Iraq we would need a much stronger national security system. This may be what he is talking about is strengthening this.
Thats just my measly attempt at understanding it though.
If so I think it would actually be good. Work on keeping people out of the country that shouldn't be in it. Beats me though...
I'm sure I'm wrong and someone else knows it.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT. WHY HAVE A BUNCH OF INSECURE UNREGULATED CIVILLIAN TOUTING AUTOMATIC M15'S? GOOD IDEA? THIS ISN'T SWEDEN
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I understand what you're saying....your attempt to interpret. BUT...if/when Obama pulls us almost entirely out of Iraq (04/10)....we have our military home. Why would we need a "civilian national security force" that is EQUAL in size to the combined armed forces??? That costs just as much??
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exactly. hes smoking crack
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Why is it that when I Google "civilian national security force obama," all I get are wacko sites like worldnetdaily.com?
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How'd I know there would be a response like that? The man said it.....



JUST AS WELL FUNDED.

And the National civilian security force would be used ONLY for national security within our borders right??? Why do I doubt that???

Sounds like a "civilian" militia to me.....
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