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Old 12-16-2009   #1
 
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Vittles Vault Groover

I didn't want to hijack the other groover thread so…

Has anyone used a Vittles Vault as a groover? I was looking at these and they seem like they should work pretty well. Hell someone has already devised a harness for them.

Comparing it to a Eco-Safe; it is lighter, cheaper and has a higher capacity. The Eco-Safe costs ~$200 and only has 5.5 gallons or 50 uses. While the 50 and 30 Vittles Vault are $34/$24 (plus seat and extra lid) and have 13/8 gallons or 118/72 uses.

My idea is to get a Vittles Vault 50 or 30 and an extra lid. I'd take the extra lid cut a hole in it and glue a toilet seat on top. Then you could just screw on the seat at camp. It seems to meet BLM, NPS, and USFS requirements for washable and reusable toilet systems.

The 50 container is 20"H x 14"D x 14"W. This would be a little tall for a toilet. (Standard is 14" tall.)


While the 30 is 13"H x 14"D x 14"W. About right for a toilet.


The biggest concern would be the flip test. But I have read they do well. I am also a little concerned about cleaning it out but it can't be worse than a plain ammo can.

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Interesting. If this is indead acceptable for use on the Idaho lottery rivers, I think I'd just use the $24 one and just use it once - I hate using the scat machines. I'd pay $24 every trip to avoid that experience.
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I like the 34.00$ one, it might be a little tall (20 inches) but for 46 more uses the extra 10.00$ makes it a real bargin. Yes??
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I'm thinking a bucket full of 118 uses might be really really heavy, making it a big chore to haul to a good groover location. I'm picky about groover location - must have decent access an a view of the river.
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This could be an economical choice for the occasional rafter. Just leave it on somebody's porch when done. Surprise!
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I'm thinking a bucket full of 118 uses might be really really heavy, making it a big chore to haul to a good groover location. I'm picky about groover location - must have decent access an a view of the river.
The harness will be very use full for the 118 use one, so picking your groover location just got easyer. Plus the 20 inches will give you a better view than the standard 14 inches.
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This could be an economical choice for the occasional rafter. Just leave it on somebody's porch when done. Surprise!
You could take the lid off pour some gas on top and light it on fire Billy Madison style.

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I'm thinking a bucket full of 118 uses might be really really heavy, making it a big chore to haul to a good groover location. I'm picky about groover location - must have decent access an a view of the river.
Well you have brought up a interesting philosophical question, how much is a shit load?

According to a the Salmon-Challis National Forest site, "a person generates approx. 1 lb. of waste per day." So lets estimate two dumps per day (˝lb. each), that gives us 59lbs. for the 50 and 36lbs. for the 30.
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Holy crap this is getting pretty heavy, I may need two of those already devised harnesses, I hope they are not too expensive because I like that extra seven inches.(for the view)
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Interesting. If this is indead acceptable for use on the Idaho lottery rivers, I think I'd just use the $24 one and just use it once - I hate using the scat machines. I'd pay $24 every trip to avoid that experience.
May I ask, then what? You can't dispose of it as refuse...
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