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Old 02-15-2017   #1
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Traverse 10 vs Karma RG

Hello everyone this is my first post here.

Some background, I currently live in Florida and do fresh and salt water kayaking in springs, rivers, salt marshes and some coastal. We are planning some lazy river trips this year to Buffalo National River, French Broad to Hot Springs, north to Acadia and then Dry Tortugas (ill probably use a SOT or sea kayak for that one) Even my SOT is a Jackson Kraken for the bigger water.

I've been looking at a 'smaller' boat that is still 'fast' for fun camping trips, the RG seems a potential good fit since its a bit more 'sea kayak' but the traverse 10 huge hatch may make fitting in gear a bit easier. I was an ultralight backpacker for years so I dont need much but i like my beer space.

Is the RG that much more 'coastal friendly' and faster to make it a clear choice for me to hit the lazier rivers and springs of the South but still capable of milder rapids I'll get when I go to NC over a traverse 10? Or is the traverse 10 with larger hatch not that much different of a boat and just as capable?

Trying them first down here is tough to impossible, there are some RGs around here and there but the Jackson dealer mostly sells SOT and Tupelos and has to order the boat for me so I get one shot at this.

To add to it, we may move in a year or two and move up near Asheville/Hot springs.


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Old 02-17-2017   #2
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I've got both an RH and Traverse 10. I really like them both but they do have a few differences.
Here is a list:

RG: fast, lots of storage, better for salt and longer distances of flat water. Comfortable, stable, tracks great with skeg down.

Traverse: much more like a normal creek boat. Easier to turn in hard WW.
Still lots of room for overnights. Same skegg, super stable.

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Old 02-18-2017   #3
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Thanks for that input! RG sounds like it be a better choice for me for local and travel use combined.
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Old 02-19-2017   #4
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I confess to owning both of these boats, but not having enough cockpit time in either.

I've run them both on class 4 and easy 5 whitewater.

Everything Peter says is spot on, but the main thing that makes me personally prefer the Traverse is the higher deck height for how I like me knees to feel in a boat. I find the UL/RG to have too low a deck for comfort. Removing the seat pad helps with this, but detracts from the "cush" factor big time.

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Old 02-23-2017   #5
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I have an RG and love it. Our son got an Unlimited a few years ago and raced it in the Northwest Creeking Competition and that was class IV-V. The RG is the same hull design as the unlimited but with a hatch and skeg.I have to admit, for me I like to get places and do as little work as possible and my RG is great on flat water and class III-IV. A bit heavier than my creek boat, but a lot less work on the flat stretches of water and pretty comfy on long trips. This is a GREAT Rogue River boat and I am sure it would be great on the Grand Canyon.
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Old 03-03-2017   #6
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how is the unlimited in flat/slow water where I 'should' be using a sea kayak like lazy rivers and salt marshes? Would it be actually be slower then something like a kraken 13.5 sot with potnetial longer waterline wise?

the size helps alot for pickup truck carry over the ritual on 17 foot boats.
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