Originally Posted by dirtbagkayaker
Who cares about 9RL anyway? Pyranha has only one look for Christ's sake! Burn? Shiva? 9R? They're the same boat! Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
Nice troll...I'll take the bait.
I picked up a 9R L this season. I really like the boat. It paddles well and is fairly quick for a modern short boat. I have only paddled the Burn III in a M (too small), but I did own a Burn 1st gen and 2nd gen in Large. I have only paddled a Shiva in the M size (too small for me). I can tell you that they are not only all different in appearance and design, but they all paddle very differently (amazing concept, right?). I'm about 6'2", 200-210 lbs, size 11 feet...and I have been paddling an LL Stinger most of the time over the last 3 years. I have been paddling for a few decades plus now. I learned to stern squirt and boof in a Perception Sabre, and "creek" in a Corsica S. So, my opinion of "easy to turn/hold a line" and "boofability" ("boofiness"?) of boats is a bit skewed. I paddle mostly on class IV and friendly/familiar class V nowadays.
Burn: Great initial stability (flat hull). Carves into eddies decently due to defined rails/chines. Comparably slower than most modern boats. Gen 1 seemed faster and narrower, but people complained it had an edgy/trippy rail and didn't boof well. Gen 2 was wider with softer rails and more rocker, which made it a "slug" in my opinion. Gen 3 seems to be a compromise between the two. More effort to roll due to width/flat hull (and my poor technique). Flat hull makes it easy to turn with a stern draw, sweep and lean into the stroke.
Shiva: I have the least time in this boat, and only in a Medium. Less initial stability, due to the rounder hull and sides. High volume bow seems to surface well. Less carve and more "mush" into and out of eddies. Seems like it is easier to roll (personal experience aside), due to rounded sides. Medium speed in downriver paddling. Turns better with a bow draw, lean into turn, or flat spin and use the rocker.
9R: Large has good initial stability (it is wider than the med, and width carries further behind the seat). Carves into/across/out of eddies like a machine! Bow stays on top of the water better than any boat I have ever paddled. As one of the design considerations was class V races and/or short boat class in downriver races, it is fast for a 9' boat (fastest guy in a slow boat?). It rolls well (in flat water, so far). Turns well with a bow draw, stern draw, carve.
Also, I used to paddle a Remix 79 as my creek/short boat. I like the speedy carving of the 9R L better than the speedy slipping hull of the Remix. The 9R stays above the surface and boofs a good bit easier than the Remix due to the bow rocker/deflectors and more volume in the bow.
As far as "only one look", they all are offered in the same color options, and the font used on the "Pyranha" logo is exactly the same across all designs.
*Continue current course of "crazy pills" daily, until symptoms abate or renewal of prescription is required.