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Old 07-26-2013   #1
Brevard, North Carolina
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Need some help- Wanna get into Creekboating

Hey guys,
First let me preface, All of my kayak experience has been on flatwater( lakes and sounds and stuff) my white water experiences have been in rafts through the NOC.

I wan't to get into creeking, I live less than 20 minutes from the NFFB (I know I will have to work my way up to it) with it and the Green river narrows being my ultimate goals.

My question is, What equipment do i HAVE to have when starting out? What brands/ models do you suggest? Boats, Paddles, Skirts, PDF's, Helmets, etc. I am 6'0 225 LBS and slimming down.

One of my mentors has already promised to show me the ropes of Creeking so I don't have to pay tons of money to learn. (he used to work for NOC)

Any and all opinions/knowledge, would be appreciated!


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Old 07-27-2013   #2
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Lot's of good creek boats out there. I prefer Pyranha, so that what I will suggest first. Burn, Shiva or Nano. Some other good options include the Jackson Hero and Villain, Dagger Mamba and Nomad and Liquid Logic Stomper.

Paddles. I prefer Werner, but Adventure Technology makes good products as well. I would suggest the Powerhouse.

Skirts. You want something with a rubber rand instead of a bungee. I had a Mountain Surf for years that I loved, but just upgraded to an Immersion Research Kling-On. Snapdragon makes good skirts too.

PFD's. There are lot's of choices in this department, and fit will be a big determining factor, but if your going to get into creeking you should probably get a safety vest. Astral's Green Jacket is becoming the standard, but there are many other choices out there.

Helmets. There are lots of helmet options as well, and that is another item that will need to be tried on. My helmet is WRSI (whitewater research safety institute), but know lot's of people who swear by Sweet.

Dry Gear. Best bet is a Kokatat Gmer drysuit, but that is expensive. You could also get a Rogue or one of their Tropos tops with dry pants, but the investment in a drysuit is worth it.

Also need to get a throw rope, river knife and emergency whistle. Never hurts to carry a couple locking beaners too.
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Old 07-27-2013   #3
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The key is not nessecarily having your end point goal as the green. This is a future preventer of progress..Anybody can run whitewater, but the biggest game changer in your progression is to paddle lots. The easiest way to do this is just have fun! Paddle lots of flat water in your new kayak get that gear dialed. Get a bomb proof roll, Coloradans need to reexamine this step. Make every river little more difficult mentally with must make moves even if they are imaginary. The only way to get Better is push your self a little bit harder each time if you go up to high you will just topple over like standing on a ladder. There is a fine line because some swims and situations can be a road block in some ways. The key is get that addiction thru fun, find a playhole or wave and learn the basics. Being a good creek boater means you are just as comfortable in 3 as in the steep shit. It all comes down to mental focus and muscle memory..

If you get out to the rio in montana give us a ring we have a good thing going just bring the bomb proof roll...
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Old 07-27-2013   #4
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So when you say bomb proof roll?

Back deck, or front deck?
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...Coloradans need to reexamine this step.

Careful there, Sparky.
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