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Old 11-30-2011   #1
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floorless tents and wood stoves, rafters need to get on board

So lots of archery hunters, horse pack huters, and other folks using these setup, lots of river outfitters using canvas wall tents and bigger heavier wood stoves on rivers for winter steelhead trips and such, what about the general private rafter that doesn't row a giant sweep boat to carry a couple hundred pound tent, but wants to get out there in the fall, winter and spring and live in relative comfort. There are lots of light weight compactable options:

Some stoves (some more compact and lighter and more expensive than other):

http://www.kni-co.com/

http://www.titaniumgoat.com/

http://seekoutside.com/lightweight-packable-wood-stove/

http://www.outfitterssupply.com/Rile...ctinfo/WCS100/

http://www.fourdog.com/index_files/titanuimstoves.htm

and obviously Kifaru, but there site wouldn’t work today when I tried to link
http://www.kifaru.net/stoves.html

Various floorless shelters that have or could have a Stove Jack (fire proof panel that the stovepipe exits the shelter from):

Kifaru

Various Go-Lite Shangri la versions (the no longer make the Shangri La 8, which was a great tent for a stove and lots of room.

Various MSR floor less tents (I have a stove jack in a MSR Twin Brother that works great).

Sierra designs Origami tents (I have the origami 4 and it the sewing is sub-parr, I have had to completely re-sew all the stake out points around the perimeter). This could be a great tipi tent candidate for a wood stove, but it needs to be sewn better.

Black diamond megamid

These folks make several badass tipis:
http://wyominglostandfound.com/

This would be totally bitchin with a stove jack insert
http://www.hilleberg.com/home/products/altai/altai.php
http://www.consortiumlibrary.org/blo...ag/relaxation/

There are a bunch of other tipi style tents made in Europe, of which would be great, but not easily procured from the states.

Various floorless lightweight shelters with stove jacks:

http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforum...381173&forum=2

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthr...80/type/thread

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...topics/4207097

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...hread_id=33097

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=414551&page=4

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=63656

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/...r-a-tipi/page2

http://www.wintercampers.com/winterc...e/blog/page/2/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/landrover-ambulance/

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Wow, so much stuff - so little time and $$

is it just me or is the purple font just hard to see?
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I typed it in word with standard black, and the links were blue. When I pasted it in, they turned purple, which I am not totally oposed to as I have a purple boat and my old ski suit from the 1980s was also purple, however it is hard to see!
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some very cool stuff. I like the yurt! and the bearproof container would be an interesting alternative to a york box if it fit in the right spot
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I have a megamid and one from seek outside. The seek outside is much bigger and very lite and has bug screen. They have wood stoves but being a welder I may build my own. Went down the gunny last weekend to Whitewater.Two people, three dogs(small) and lots of room left over.
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My buddy that I hunt with has a Kifaru; 4-6 person I think with the medium stove. It is awesome. It's so nice to come in after a long day hiking in the cold and crank up a fire. Their stove is aluminum and the hole think packs down to a decent size tent and is light for what you get. Definetely cool; and could easily be used on the river. We've had it in quite a bit of weather: rain, snow, cold, etc. hunting in october and it's always worked well. I would get bigger rather than smaller, ie if you think you'll have two - three people get the 4-6 man, if you'll have 5-6 get the 8 man w/ large stove.

They're rad, if I could afford it I would get one; until then I'll hunt with him and use his.

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Actually Kifaru stoves are made of stainless steel I believe. Other collapsible stoves are made of titanium. I am not aware of any made of aluminum, probably because they would easily melt, those little stoves really get hot. My Kni-co packer is steel and it can easily get up to glowing red hot, probably well beyond the melting point of aluminium. In terms of cost, the small collapsible ones are pretty spendy, especially the titanium ones. However, there is quit a lot of info on the interwebs about building your own. For rafting, where a super duper small collapsible stove is not entirely necessary, kni-co offers some small stoves for really good prices. I have the packer, but the Packer junior would also do a very good job in my shelter, which is 14' long and 6' wide.
http://www.kni-co.com/packerjr.shtml

and at way less cost than some of those commercially made fire pans out there.

I really want to get a water tank for my Packer, which stores inside for stove along with the nesting stove pipe, damper and spark arrestor for travel. The tank hangs on the outside of the stove, holds 2 gallons and I bet would heat the water up pretty fast based on the time it takes me to make a big pot of coffee just sitting it on top of the stove.
http://www.kni-co.com/watertank.shtml
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I have last years mega-lite with stove jack installed for sale for $220. I've only used the tent "never the stovejack" a handful of times email me @ [email protected] for more info
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I have last years mega-lite with stove jack installed for sale for $220. I've only used the tent "never the stovejack" a handful of times email me @ [email protected] for more info
Who put the stove jack in it?, one thing I don't like about the BD floorles tents is they don't have a sod flap around the bottom perimeter and don't have enough stake points to make a good ground seal for winter camping, unless you are in snow can pack it down around the edge.
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That Hilleberg yurt looking tent looks like the perfect setup if you put in a stove jack. Light, but plenty of headroom.
Shap, I hear you on the BD models. I use my almost exclusively as a cook shelter and a hang out spot in bad weather. Too drafty for my sally ass.
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